Idontknow Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Curious if others have tried this. Would love to hear your opinions. Thanks guys. ---daniel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 https://www.audioholics.com/loudspeaker-design/comb-filtering 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 The sound came through very clear. Having the Heresy close together isn't good, but having them forward vs the Forte would have the two pair's sound reaching your ears at two different times. Also, those are Forte 1s? the grills are a little different than the ones I had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I don’t get the point of this experiment. Having two sets of different speakers playing at the same time in different positions has to destroy the soundstage of a track cut for stereo reproduction. no harm done here but the question remains - Why? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 10 minutes ago, Fido said: I don’t get the point of this experiment. Having two sets of different speakers playing at the same time in different positions has to destroy the soundstage of a track cut for stereo reproduction. no harm done here but the question remains - Why? Which brings us back to the old saying "just because you can do a thing, doesn't mean you should"... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idontknow Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 Had I not tried it for myself, I wouldn't really know. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 38 minutes ago, Idontknow said: Had I not tried it for myself, I wouldn't really know. Most of us here have done similar things and said similar words.... it's a part of the journey. After a lot of moving them in, out; forward then back; toed a little this way and then that, I have made the Forte 'disappear' and made a soundstage. They are great speakers. I want to hear the Heresy 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 What was the point of this flawed test. In the end we were held hostage to a badly design video. I hit ff button. Nothing wrong with owner's pride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idontknow Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 On 4/4/2024 at 9:01 PM, derrickdj1 said: What was the point of this flawed test. In the end we were held hostage to a badly design video. I hit ff button. Nothing wrong with owner's pride. Brutal. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/4/2024 at 12:45 PM, Idontknow said: Had I not tried it for myself, I wouldn't really know. Putting the Heresy's on top of the forte's upside down will give you significantly greater results. People will still scream and shout about how wrong it is but I've done this several times and it works great, at least with like speakers. The early Heresy models have a lower sensitivity than the forte so that may have a negative impact but not sure how much. Either way, stacking them trying to align the drivers in both cabinets should improve the sound by quite a bit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/5/2024 at 12:01 AM, derrickdj1 said: In the end we were held hostage Yes, and that was an intense situation. I was able to reason with the hostage takers and I was able to convince me and myself to not do anything that we would regret. 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible Nectar Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 One speaker per audio channel please 🙂 If'ns you're feeling the urge to play two sets of speakers for two channel stereo, I might suggest that it's time for a larger, more capable singular pair of speakers. If you compare "Fortes Only" at 8:58-9:15ish vs both speakers at 10:00-10:15 the"effect" you get (a wah-wah-wah-wah) on the "both" becomes apparent how this can "mess" with things a bit. 1 hour ago, jjptkd said: Putting the Heresy's on top of the forte's upside down will give you significantly greater results. People will still scream and shout about how wrong it is but I've done this several times and it works great, at least with like speakers. The early Heresy models have a lower sensitivity than the forte so that may have a negative impact but not sure how much. Either way, stacking them trying to align the drivers in both cabinets should improve the sound by quite a bit. That's another interesting experiment. There was a guy on here years ago who used to do this with Cornwalls (IB Slammin or something). All the same speakers so it was easier to get them to "line up". On 4/4/2024 at 2:45 PM, Idontknow said: Had I not tried it for myself, I wouldn't really know. ....and that's really "where it's at". So long as the amp can drive the load, no foul trying here, even if we learn some "works/not works" along the way. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 45 minutes ago, Audible Nectar said: One speaker per audio channel please 🙂 If'ns you're feeling the urge to play two sets of speakers for two channel stereo, I might suggest that it's time for a larger, more capable singular pair of speakers. I tend to agree with this but nothing wrong with utilizing what you have on hand even if just experimenting or having fun. 45 minutes ago, Audible Nectar said: That's another interesting experiment. There was a guy on here years ago who used to do this with Cornwalls (IB Slammin or something). All the same speakers so it was easier to get them to "line up". People been doing this forever, believe I've seen some cave art depicting it somewhere. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I've experimented with stuff like this in the past soooo many times. I had a blast doing it. In the end though it made doing things the proper way more rewarding and satisfying. It's all part of the journey. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Matrix, quadrophonic, it's all fun. Was a thing, upon a time. With an old Sansui model, more fun. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, billybob said: Matrix, quadrophonic, it's all fun. Was a thing, upon a time. With an old Sansui model, more fun. My favorite is listening to my 5.1 mix SACD's with my RF7/RC7/RS7 HT system. I still prefer my Forte's for 2 channel listening, but don't care for the 2 channel and the HT system at the same time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Southern said: My favorite is listening to my 5.1 mix SACD's with my RF7/RC7/RS7 HT system. I still prefer my Forte's for 2 channel listening, but don't care for the 2 channel and the HT system at the same time. Yes prefer the stereo side also. Prefer no sub in that mode. Just me but lots of folks listening with the limited bookshelf lower range do. Rightly so... You of course have no such problem, lol Nice system. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Steve Martin tried that. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Southern said: 3 hours ago, billybob said: Matrix, quadrophonic, it's all fun. Was a thing, upon a time. With an old Sansui model, more fun. My favorite is listening to my 5.1 mix SACD's with my RF7/RC7/RS7 HT system. Ha! I never listen to 2 channel. Up until last year I was like the Southern gentleman for almost 2 decades with multichannel concert videos thrown in...That said, lately I've been watching YouTube videos matrixed into 9.2 using Dolby PLIIz and am impressed how it works. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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