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I tried my best to purchase Matt's La Scalas but the distance made it tough (I'm in Montgomery, AL) and by the time I figured out my pony express they were gone. But alas... the wife and I were headed to Atlanta for dinner and a show this past weekend and on a whim I thought... I should check the Atlanta Criagslist! LOL Found a nice original pair from a gentlemen in Marietta (see my post in alerts for his Chorus he has for sale). I'm not sure of the year yet... if they are like the Heresy date code, I think these are 1980 or 1981. They are all original with a couple of dings and scratches but darn nice for their age. Left our hotel Sunday morning in downtown Atlanta and went and picked them up. It's a 3 hour drive home with a good chance of rain so moving blankets and a tarp were in order. Made it home just in time to beat the rain. I plan to rebuild the crossovers but they sure sound great as is!! I loved my Heresies but the La Scala? WOW. Very nice. I'm a happy guy! I'm driving these with an M-504 Onkyo Integra right now. not sure which system will eventually be "the one" but for now this will work. My room is almost 700 sq ft as it used to be the garage so I have plenty of room to open them up. I have a pair of Cerwin Vega CL-215's running in the rear of the room as well. The La Scalas are so sensitive, you can barely here the CV's! LOL This is a good thing in my book as they just add a little bottom end to the room with their dual 15's.

July 17, 1982 at National House Inn Marshall, Michigan. It was an outdoor ceremony, but due to tropical conditions, we immediately went inside to AC comfort for the reception. The attached photo shows the photo in the card Nancy gave me yesterday.

Four different trades at LF's house at 8 this morning. Parking will be at a premium. Light at the end of the tunnel now. Julia and I made it 24 years......taken way too early Get those ACs working guys it's going to be a scorcher. How's the head this morning Carl? LF and the crew caught a bunch of fish in the tournament. Had to throw several King Mackerel back.....under size and protected. Working stiffs go out there and make us proud. Hey to minermark if you're out there lurking

I wasnt even two months old.If the wife and i married right out of high school. We would be on 16 years. Since we test drove our relationship for 10 years. We only have six. Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk

This working stiff is waiting for the rain to stop so I can go to work. Maybe I'll go back to bed!

Me and my buddy sitting by the pool listening to Stevie Ray Vaughn. Martinis are flowing. Wife is telling me to turn it down. Life is good.

We've had some excitement this morning. I just pulled this big Chicken Snake out of my dad's coop. I count 5 eggs he's eaten. Can you see them?

Wow! That must be a big tree(s). Those prices sound absurd. Make sure you secure a Certificate of Insurance from the bidder you choose to accept. PM me if you need additional info on that suggestion. Christy Two large oaks about 3 ft in diameter and way tall. They sit within 10 feet of the house, and two smaller trees out in the yard. One company came and looked, shook his head and said it was too large a job for them. They are just getting to the end of their life span... Bruce

Make it a finer grind and the strength will increase.

I know that these have grills, but I really like them shirtless.

Oh That kind of buddy - the best kind.

Me and my buddy sitting by the pool listening to Stevie Ray Vaughn. Martinis are flowing. Wife is telling me to turn it down. Life is good.

I've never been to the Philippines. My late father was there in 1945 as a Lt. in the Army Corps of Engineers. At dinner today I toasted my bride to another 34, which means I've got to make it to 101. I get headaches standing on my head. Oops, misread that it was your father. That was a rough time over there. Bruce

I've never been to the Philippines. My late father was there in 1945 as a Lt. in the Army Corps of Engineers. At dinner today I toasted my bride to another 34, which means I've got to make it to 101. I get headaches standing on my head.

Neil, where were you stationed in the Philippines? Bruce Btw, I can stand on my head...

Yes, sort of. At medium grind, 1 scoop/6 oz cup is too weak. We'll try fine grind. The coffe recommends medium grind for drip. Perhaps the Bunn velocity brew is not "drip."

Wife's at work, the garden is watered, having first cup of coffee... Still getting quotes for some tree removal. Prices are ranging from $3k to $5400. Bruce

Definitely, finer grind, stronger coffee. Are you doing one scoop per 6 Oz?

No problems, currently at work.

COFFEE Dialing in the burr mill whole bean thing is proving more challenging than anticipated. The birthday pot of 8 O'Clock Colombian came out weak at 6 scoops for 4 cups. Take 2 was better at 8 scoops for 5 cups. I'm talking cups of coffee as Bunn defines them, not a "cup" as in a 16 oz cup. It's clear the fresh ground is not as strong scoop for scoop as the pre-ground. We're using the medium grind setting on the burr mill grinder. Intuitively, I would expect the fresh ground to be stronger, but the opposite seems to be the case.

Forgot to tell Judy to pickup some pup-eroni. The big dogs are happy with their large Milk Bones, but the little have gotten so spoiled to Pup-eroni that they refuse to take anything else. Tongues are hanging out due to the AC being out. Waiting on AC guy to tell me the heartbreaking price of replacement. First cup gone. Slept with the windows open, but it just now got down to 75. Supposed to be 100 the rest of the week here. The humidity right now is only 84%...

Black Eyed Peas up now.

He's a swimming fool.

Bruce, You can do that standing on your head. Of course swallowing will then be difficult. :-)

My late wife and I made it 33 yrs... She was such a saint that she got to go home early. If Carna and I get 30 yrs in, I'll only be 91. Bruce

Important new information (help if you can please): Changed prices of Zener diode. I found that there are two Zeners, and they are 10 watt chassis mount type. The part number for them is Microsemi Corporation 1N3998A, and they are readily available but are expensive. They are $30.71 each, and you need two so $61.42 per network or $122.84 per pair of networks. I would like to know what Klipsch uses now days for tweeter protection. Surely there is an alternative which isn't so expensive like a polyswitch in the KP-201 I have. Can you help:: ?? Is a crossover person here who could elaborate on a good tweeter protection that doesn't cost more than a pair of used networks would. Turning your AL crossover into an AA or AL-3 crossover or performing the "wdecho mod" on your AL. (This what wdecho has done with his AL's and he is very pleased with the results.) Lot's of folks are stuck with the "Notch Filter Happy" AL they don't like. Rather than throw money at it with new caps etcetera, perhaps you might consider modifying it to be an AA, an AL-3 or perform wdecho's mod on it? That's what this thread is about. Perhaps it would be more to your liking to simply snag a pair of used AA or AL-3 networks or buy some new improved ones or even build your own AA's. The important thing is that the decision is yours. Prices are as of July 2016 at Bob Crites' and Parts Express. Here they are. From cheapest to most expensive: wdecho's Modded AL (cost per pair of networks $19.00 plus shipping) NEW! ADD $122.84 if you need Zener diodes: [this is the AA but leaves the T2A transformer (-6db) and the 125mH on the tweeter] 1) woofer - remove the 2.5mH and 30uF 2) squawker - change the 8uF to a 13uF $8 each ($5-9 at PE for 12uF's) 3) squawker - remove the 2.7mH 4) squawker - remove the 2.5mH 5) squawker - remove the 8uF 6) squawker - remove the 8 Ohm 7) tweeter - remove 0.5 mH 8) tweeter - remove 125uH 9) tweeter - remove 2uF 10) tweeter - add two Zener diodes (if your crossover doesn't have one) $61.42 per pair for a network! Note: if you wish, you could buy a Crites AA re-cap kit ($96) per pair plus shipping with all new caps. If you need Zeners then I would recomend looking into the polyswitches used in the KP-201's wdecho's AL mod: AL to AA conversion (cost per pair of networks $97.00 plus shipping) NEW! ADD $122.84 if you need Zener diodes: 1) woofer - remove the 2.5mH and 30uF 2) squawker - change the 8uF to a 13uF $8 each ($5-9 at PE for 12uF's) 3) squawker - change the T3A to 3654 Crites $31 each 4) squawker - remove the 2.7mH 5) squawker - remove the 2.5mH 6) squawker - remove the 8uF 7) squawker - remove the 8 Ohm 8) tweeter - remove 0.5 mH 9) tweeter - remove 125uH 10) tweeter - remove 2uF 11) tweeter - add two Zener diodes (if your crossover doesn't have one) $61.42 per pair for a network! 12) tweeter - add 245uH (.25mH) $8 each Note: if you wish, you could buy a Crites AA re-cap kit ($96) and a pair of Crites 3654 autoformers ($62) and a pair of .25mH for a total cost of $174 per pair plus shipping with all new caps. If you need Zeners then I would recommend looking into the polyswitches used in the KP-201's. AL to AA conversion: AL to AL-3 conversion (cost per pair of networks $224.00 plus shipping): 1) woofer - change 2.5mH to 4 mH $21 2) woofer - add 2 - 68uF's $20 each 3) squawker - change 8uF to 13uF $8 each ($5-9 at PE for 12uF's) 4) squawker - change T3A to 3636 Crites $35 5) squawker - remove 8uF 6) squawker - change 2.5mH to 5mH $24 7) squawker - remove 8uF 8) squawker - remove 8 Ohm 9) tweeter - remove 1N3996 10) tweeter - add RDE 050 (varistor) $4 Note: if you wish, you could buy a Crites AL-3 re-cap kit ($123) and a pair of Crites 3636 autoformers ($70) a pair of 5mH's a pair of 4mH's and a pair of varistors for a total cost of $291 per pair plus shipping with all new caps. AL to AL-3 conversion: Thanks to wdecho, Bob Crites, and Matthews for helping create this thread... Oh and indirectly wvu80 gets some credit too.

These are 1975 ("N") not 1977 H's. I have a pair of "R" which are 1977 waiting to redo and I got my wires crossed. Sorry. 1975 model with consecutive serial numbers (I'll recheck serial numbers tonight and repost). I sanded down the walnut veneer, cut out all corners to apply 3/4" solid hormigo lumber, applied marbled aircraft grade wood backed etimoe veneer on tops, bottoms, sides and fronts. Installed neo magnets under from veneer, built new 1/2" grill, recapped E2 xover with Solen caps, installed new 14 gauge not fancy wire inside, ran horizontal side to side internal braced repainted the backs and speaker recesses black, built new slanted risers (2" to .75") using same veneer, applied 6 coats of Minwax wipe on poly satin and installed new banana plug terminals over location of old Klipsch screw down terminals. Bumped the top back veneer on one spot and had to splice in veneer to match. Hard to see from 3 feet away but gotta divulge that glitch. See pics. AHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! (Yeah, I know I should have been more careful!) Will post better pics of risers. I glued on thin foam rubber on tops of risers to keep speaker from sliding. I drilled screw holes in the riser for those that want to permanently attach to speaker. K-24 woofers, K-55v mids and K-77 round magnet tweeters. All work great. $700.00 plus actual shipping charges. I'm in Little Rock if anyone wants to see them. I will take more pics after work and post more photos.

Ok, I Will do that Sir

Every time I hooked up an avr to by belles, they never sounded good. I tried my old harman kardon, my father's integra, and his onkyo, all sounded bad. It wasn't until I hooked up the old Sony did they sing. I'm going to try hooking up my harman kardon as a preamp to my Sony to see how that sounds, which will give me the sub out. Thanks for your suggestions. If this works out well, maybe I'll pick up that Yamaha or something from accessories 4 less.

Nice edging! But enough about your lawn... speakers look really nice too!

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I'm pretty excited. It was a long weekend and we arrived home around 3pm yesterday. Had them placed and up and running by 4. The wife made dinner but I stayed in front of the speakers until bed time... can't wait to get home and listen some more. My first listen? Herb Alpert's Going Places (remastered by Herb in 2000) My wife then chose Nora Jones. THEN... threw on some Audioslave. WOW. I need to rethink my tone/eq settings with these bad boys. Very revealing.

Wow! That must be a big tree(s). Those prices sound absurd. Make sure you secure a Certificate of Insurance from the bidder you choose to accept. PM me if you need additional info on that suggestion. Christy

yeah, what Rick said Matt ♪ ♫ ♪

A small tourist hotel was all abuzz about an afternoon wedding where the groom was 95 and the bride was 23. The groom looked pretty feeble and the feeling was that the wedding night might kill him, because his bride was a healthy, vivacious young woman. But lo and behold, the next morning, the bride came down the main staircase slowly, step by step, hanging onto the banister for dear life. She finally managed to get to the counter of the little shop in the hotel. The clerk looked really concerned, "Whatever happened to you, honey? You look like you've been wrestling an alligator!" The bride groaned, hung on to the counter and managed to speak, "Ohhh! He told me he'd been saving up for 75 years, and I thought he meant his money!"

I have probably 10 or so pair of the ALs lying around. Last time the power was off during the summer, I discovered they make excellent door props to keep doors open.

I think that's a pawn shop and they are pretty firm ...until they've been there a minute.

Lady Gaga up.

He can trade them both for this!

Schematics for the 3 crossovers Refer to these when you are doing your conversion/mod. Original Klipsch AL crossover: wdecho's mod: Klipsch AA Crossover: Klipsch AL-3 Crossover: AL network source/driver Connections:

I'm watching Patriots; Legends and Lies, on Fox News Channel. From Bill O'Reiley, it's good if you like history.

just to add a few things on top of Frzninvt's post as seen in the pictures the grill cloth was cutout and replaced with i'm guessing grill boards and cloth and the pie slice logos i also believe the woofer cutout is 12" and a 15" woofer was used ( factory ) if it is mahogany which it does look like it M-7 should be written on the label for dark which they are and M-2 for light finish i also believe that the klipsch logo for this time period should be the clear plexiglas with klipsch in white lettering ( not the pie slice logo ) placed at the bottom of the speaker. forum member Gilbert had one of these years ago which had the light mahogany finish would love to have these. i have 2 early model H's with the K-1000 horn

Pioneer Elite for the win! Congrats on the new receiver!

i don't know but if you think about it like the military, then yes three tours of duty definitely counts as time served. I was 21 and my wife was 20 when we got married, a long time ago. Every year about anniversary time I expect an 18 wheeler to pull up with my trophy, the wife says it would be for her, I say.

Do three marriages adding to 29 total count-----?!

Mookie, you are to be congratulated. Had I gotten married at 23 it would have been a huge mistake. Somehow when my father got married in 1947 at the age of 23 he was more mature than I was at the same age. I guess getting yanked from school to serve in France and the Philippines makes one grow up fast.

None necessary from my end, but I appreciate the sentiment just the same. It is I that owe an apology to you. In my zeal to clarify what we actually know historically, I was condescending when it was unnecessary to make my point. For that, I sincerely apologize. Travis

Well, I bit the bullet and brought a new avr, the Pioneer SC 99. Looking forward to trying the full band phase control, Dolby Atmos and independent EQ of two subwoofers.

Who's the new guy?

With an 88db sensitivity, they would not be anywhere near as loud as the 101db RF-7's using the same amount of power. That might have been the problem with your old speakers which were low sensitivity as well with their 89db sensitivity. For every 3db gain, the power is doubled. So for an RF-7, at 1 watt of power, the 2000 would require 16 watts. For 2 watts on the RF-7, the 2000 would require 32 watts. For 4 watts of power, the 2000 would require 64 watts. For 8 watts of power on the RF-7, the 2000 would require 128 watts. At about 10 watts on the RF-7, you have reached the limit of how loud the 2000 could play IF you had a 200 watt signal, which your system isn't even capable of.