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This is for the Maracas on top of the La Scala’s A song by Peter Allen When my baby When my baby smiles at me I go to Rio De Janeiro, my-oh-me-oh I go wild and then I have to do the Samba And La Bamba Now I`m not the kind of person With a passionate persuasion for dancin` Or roma-ancin` But I give in to the rhythm And my feet follow the beatin` of my hear-eart Woh-ho-oh-oh, when my baby When my baby smiles at me I go to Rio De Janeiro

Just a quick update to say that I was able to successfully repair the woofer. Found a local guy who diagnosed it was an issue with the glue separating from the spider on the cone. He cut the dust cap back during the repairs to help shim it and also found the glue separated from the spider and the coil. $21 for repairs and it’s back up! Thank you for the suggestions and feedback here.

We moved 25 miles south of The 'Ville in March of 2018. My wife & me have been to every B&B and every Louder Than Life festival ever since! Great events!

Record spinning on a Wednesday afternoon

I read that they would give him $466 trade in if he bought a pair at $1050 each. So 2 x 1050-466=1634. At least that's how I read it.

Gotta love an easy cheap fix. 👌

Thanks for chiming in everyone. Very helpful. I have had a lot of speakers, but was kind of an idiot when it came to audio. I kept trying gear and speakers to try something I liked. I never treated my room, so I was always looking for that magic formula. At my old house with a 14x20 room I had Montor Audio GS60s (harsh sounding), Fritz, Elac FS 409s, Elac 407 Black Edition, Proac D48Rs, Tidal Pianos. Most of those speakers were probably pretty good to okay, but again I was naive about room treatment and set up. It is all good, I learned a lot along the way. In 2022 I developed tinnitus and had to find speakers that were smooth but still enjoyable. I found the Warfedale Lintons. I loved them, yes they couldn't do some things that $16 grand Tidal Piano could do, but oddly enough, I enjoyed them more. I just moved to a new house with this huge room, I knew that Lintons couldn't move enough air for this big room so I bought the Polk R700s with the budget I had left after the move. I'm getting the best sound I have ever had, but this room is treated, I have dialed in my cabling and my amp really jives with the R700s, I could seriously live with these. Because of tinnitus, I don't really listen loud and if I do it is not for long periods. The R700s are okay at low listening levels, but really come alive as you juice the volume. I am interested in the Corwalls because I keep reading they sound great at lower volumes. Plus, as mentioned looking for more extension on the guitars. The only time I have ever heard a Klipsch (other than my brothers little bookshelves and those were harsh/bright), was back in 1982. I was just 14 years old. I don't know which model it was, All these years I thought it was always the Klispchhorn, but that is to tall, the ones I heard were shorter/squatier so it may have been a Cornwall. My friends brother dropped the needle on Asia's Heat of the Moment (don't laugh) and I could not believe it, the opening guitar riff, so thick, so alive, so extended! I have always used that track to test speakers and to this day, I have never heard that track sound like it did in 1982.

Hey @oldtimer it's on the way! Finally!

You are better off with an unmolested pair. If you know what you're doing, some upgrades are good and effective. If you upgrade because you read it on the internet, of because a website sell it, you've probably made a mistake.

Tubes are hot!!

Anyone post Boygenius?

Saw him twice many years ago. Such a great performer.

After 36 years it has awaken

No, they are right across the street from where I work. Our facility takes care of people with intellectual /developmental disabilities, from grade school age up until they pass away. We've supported some individuals for over 50-60 years. https://www.orangegrovecenter.org/history

These are my favoriteeeeeeeees!!!

This might be my first post.... I'm running an updated / old-school Dynaco Stereo 70.

not audio but I've been a busy beaver..

Well it was in the 50s yesterday and today! But the cold will come back soon for a lot of us according to what I read. One system to the west one to the east that will funnel the air from the Great White North right down here! I do not know why but when I plugged my pc back to the www after being stored for half a year it updated to a different group of updates that are the more buggy ones that I left a couple years ago. It was in the 2300 level and what I'd been on will not ever jump from 2200 up to there. So I had to reinstall, and maybe the movies I want to watch will cooperate again.

May as well go for the new ones with that little difference in net cost. Just the excitement of unboxing new speakers is worth the difference.

Grilled salmon too. I love it

11AM and 49 degrees in Duckburg this time of the year? Sunny? Groundhog factor? Might have to suit up and do a bit of yardwork leftover from fall. Should be some leaves out there. A few piles already in the street. Sooo, will they call the city to bring the street sweeper out or will they lay and blow elsewhere? The LAST thing I wanna do is break out the blower, lawn sweeper and drive in circles. NM coffee is done. Problem solved.

Indubitably... lol !

Orwell's Animal Farm. Again...seems appropriate.

Hi, does anyone have insight into these? type: HWO serial: 705915 thank you!

I own CWIVs but have noticed that the Polk R700 are well reviewed. Many say they’re the best at around $2000. I can’t say whether you'll prefer the Klipsch but I can say that they do what you’re wanting in regards to guitars. I haven’t compared my Cornwalls directly with any non horn modern towers but I did compare the Forte IVs at a Crutchfield store last year. They had the Fortes, some revel towers ($4000) and the Wharfdale Elyesions ($10000). I played Weezer’s ‘In the Garage’ on all three and there was no comparison for me. The guitars were unrestrained and just ripped compared to the other two. Not harsh or beaming, just ALIVE. The kid who worked there said the Fortes were his favorite as well. I would also be surprised if instrument separation isn’t better on the Cornwalls. That is a strong suit as well as drum realism and dynamics.

Do I have to make reservations in advance? lol Would have to beat the back end of a tour trailer. lol

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I'm in Omaha, hit me up if you want as i have Cornwall IVs, you can even bring your amp and we can move the speakers around the house to get different listening experiences. I'm surprised there is no dealer in Des Moines.

For sale are my well-maintained Chorus 1 speakers in walnut finish. They are in great condition for their age. I have thoughtfully upgraded them with LMAHLs and refreshed the capacitors to enhance their performance. Additionally, I have the original tweeters available if you prefer stock. I hope to find a new owner who will appreciate and enjoy these speakers as much as I have. Please contact me if you are interested in purchasing them. Thank you for your consideration. Local pickup in Magnolia Texas. Cash is king. 1750 with LMAHL'S and stock tweets 20240103_102341_IMG_5180.HEIC

Those are pre-1979 Belle Klipsch components. Very sad the cabinets are not there.

I attended AXPONA 2023 and the speakers that impressed me the most were an open baffle design from Pure Audio Project. There were other speakers that sounded better, but not at the price point. I would love to hear a pair in my own listening space to see if I'm as impressed. In case you're interested in DIY options, here is a link I found interesting. https://abxaudiophiles.org/abx-baffles

I’m right in that same line of thinking. Thanks for helping to confirm. Guess I’ll see how motivated the seller is before making the drive to demo.

That’s on the top end in my opinion. They’d need to be 95+% mint and even then that’s a bit more than I’d pay. $600 is more realistic.

I love open baffle.They were what made my sell my Magnepans after 10 years. But Lascala keeps calling.

What a solid headliners!

Sanding was basically done. This is the extent of sending I felt comfortable before loosing vaneer on the surfaces. Certain areas with old stain etched in the grain so good that cannot not be 100% sended out.

The REL website matched the 212/SX with Khorns, so I went with that. The soundstage is bigger, sometimes wider than the speakers on good recordings. My head snaps around to the location when that happens. The system sound clarity is also better. I listen at lower levels now because of the increased clarity. I have always been happy with the bass from the Khorns but that is where the biggest and most positive change has taken place. My neighbor, a drummer, has always liked the bass of the Khorns but he also loves the improvement in detail and quality. We hear subtle details not heard in familiar recordings before adding the REL. It is not a matter of more bass, the REL is rated to 18Hz. Drums sound different. You really notice the difference between a mallet or stick hit. I feel the texture in the mallet hit that I never did before. The stick hit is a little sharper than w/o the REL. Overall, after and during a listening session l enter a state of complete satisfaction and calmness. I have never quite experienced that before. I thought about 2 RELs, and that may happen. But I have to say, I am wondering how much better the sound can get. I will add the REL Bassline Blue cable for sure. The 212/SX may still be breaking in as the sound has improved over the last two weeks. At this point I do not "need" the second REL but I may want that last little bit of improvement.

Actually a “Belle Klipsch”. “K-500” stamped right on the horn.

Hello Epic Owners, I'm glad I found this group today. I have a pair of Klipsch Epic CF3's that I bought brand new in the Mid-1990's along with a KV-4 center channel and powered sub. I bought these from a place Called "Now Audio Video" in Knoxville, TN when I was in my early twenties. I was poor and had to get em all financed....lol. I've had them stored away for the biggest part of 20 years. I believe I actually still have all the original paperwork and sales receipt stored away somewhere. I'll have to try and get some pics to post and btw...Sorry to resurrect this thread from the grave...lol.

Hello from Germany this is my home cinema and my first post in your forum jonah

LINKS: This section includes links to specifications, reviews and upgrades to the CF-3 and CF-4. Links last updated 04/24/2022 (article was for CF-3 from 2008) The used prices for CF-3 and CF-4 are in the Heritage Prices spreadsheet at the bottom of this post. Added CF-4 v3 Schematic in .pdf format: Note: The CF-2 uses the K-64-KN compression driver, the CF-3 and CF-4 uses the K-63-KN. CF-4 v3 schematic Klipsch CF-4 Schematic(1)(1).pdf http://images.klipsch.com/Brochure_940900_epic_635164772854408000.pdf CF-3 CF-4 and EPIC Series Klipsch Forum 01/22/01 Epic CF Series. "OK -Everything you ever wanted to know about EPIC but were afraid to ask." This is a must read which details the differences between Epic CF-3/4 Versions 1, 2, and 3 as posted in Post 13 by Klipsch employee Guest_JimG_* CF-3 Speakerasylum.com 03/18/08 "REVIEW Klipsch CF-3 Speakers." Owner review. The CF-3 v1 is a good rock speaker with excellent mid range but lacks the extreme highs compared to the B&W Matrix 801. The CF-3 is "powerful, efficient, musical, has great imaging with low distortion. Can be easily adjusted to be forgiving/Detailed/Transparent/Musical." ka7niq CF-3 Klipsch Forum 03/25/13 "Epic CF-3 Bracing and Damping." Also applies to CF-4. Extensive specific and detailed discussion on bracing the CF-3 cabinet with pictures. kapsnb01 CF-3 Klipsch Forum 06/12/14 Crossover schematic for the CF-3 ( rev b ) Moray James CF-3 CF-4 Klipsch Forum 0/24/14 Details the two changes needed to retrofit a CF-3 or CF-4 version 2 back to the specifications of the version 1, that being the length of the port tube and a resistor. avguytx, Moray James CF-3 Klipsch Forum 09/28/14 "CF-3 Crossovers updated, much better." These are version 3, with many pictures of the crossover using Solen caps, Dayton Audio caps, Mills resisters. avguytx CF-4 Audioasylum.com 05/23/03 Excellent review of the CF-4, with some history of the series. Crossover point is listed as 1500. "These do not sound like audiophile speakers, they sound like live music." ka7niq CF-4 Klipsch Forum 02/23/04 Crossover point for the CF-4 at 1,600 Hz (incorrectly) claimed. The actual XO point is 1500 Hz. Plugging the port tube with a swimming noodle. MrMcGoo, Ray Garrison CF-4 and RF-83 Klipsch Forum 01/26/13 "RF-83 vs CF-4 Comparison." Owner review. The conclusion is "...the RF-83's have a much more refined sound to them but the CF-4 seems to have much more impact in the low region." Excellent photography, CF-4 version 1. @Youthman CF-4 Klipsch Forum 04/04/14 "Epic CF-4 Needs Overhaul." Detailed post on the CF-4 v1 on how to remove stains, applying Minwax Golden Oak stain, which type of polyurethane finish to use. Extensive pictures include 5" long v1 port tube, crossover boards, clear monster wires, replacement binding posts, 3/4" foam sheets, and horns damped with silicon seal. There is a single post on how to re-glue a loose dust cap. @wvu80 CF-4 CF-3 Klipsch Forum 10/06/14 "FYI on Adding Port Length to the Epic Series." Using cardboard tubes from a carpet store to add variable length to the CF-3 and CF-4 ports. @avguytx CF-4 Audiokarma.com 04/26/13 What to look for when buying. @moray james CF-4 Audiokarma.com 02/11/13 Modifications are discussed, raising the speaker to ear level. @moray james CF-4 Klipsch Forum 12/04/14 Picture of the Klipsch K-63-KN four-pound compression driver next to the massive 24-pound EV DH1A. The four-bolt DH1A with 2" exit throat does not match up well to the one-inch screw-on type CF-4 horn lens without significant modifications and adapters. @wvu80 CF-4 Klipsch Forum 01/27/14 Opinions on Epic CF-4, L pads, EV DH-1506 mods, @klipschfancf4 CF-4 CF-3 AVSForum.com 04/13/14 Compare and contrast the K-63-KN compression driver of the CF-4/CF-3 to the Denovo DNA-360 compression driver. The DNA-360 would make a sonically identical replacement for the K-63-KN. @wvu80 CF-4 Klipsch Forum 07/09/14 Definitive thread on mods including adding the DH-1506 Compression Driver, applying Dynamat to the horn, F-11 acoustical felt damping, bracing the cabinet. Modifications made by @alexg5775 CF-4 and Klipschorn 04/03/15 "CF-4 vs Khorn Review." Owner review. Compare and contrast between a highly modified CF-4 and a lightly modified Klipschorn. Review is done with Marantz 2252B bi-amped with a Crest ca6 for the LF, Bushmaster MKII DAC, and Fisher 500c. @alexg5775 CF-3 "Back Panel on CF-3 Rattling like a ****" 08/10/2014 Detailed thread w/ pics for fixing a CF-3 v3 which had rattling due to a lack of proper gluing on the back. @avguytx CF/3 CF/4 Compare contrast the K-63-KN from the CF-3/4 vs the K-64-KN from the CF-2. 08/16/2017 Are the two CD's interchangeable? Edit: Specs removed by Klipsch 03/13/16 CF-4 Official Klipsch listing - From Klipsch.com, specs and pictures CF-3 Official Klipsch listing - From Klipsch.com, specs and pictures CF-2 Official Klipsch listing - From Klipsch.com, specs and pictures CF-1 Official Klipsch listing - From Klipsch.com, specs and pictures Klipsch 1995 Brochure with specifications for all Epic models, includes pictures, PDF file +++++++++++++++++++++ EDIT: 06/26/17 Link to CF-3 rattling and fixed added I have now posted all the links I have. There are user reviews but no periodical reviews. There is CF-3b crossover schematic, but I'd like to add more models and versions. Please PM me with other links you think that might be relevant here and I'll update this post. -Dave +++++++++++++++++++++ Prices for used CF-4 and CF-3 are in the Heritage Prices spreadsheet. Run your mouse over any cell with a red triangle to see detailed notes on condition, serial numbers, location, and date sold. Klipsch Heritage used prices ver 2019-12.xlsx

Days inn isn't bad... I've stayed there. And they might give you a deal if you bring enough people. Just some info.

I've been thinking about what good friends Mrs K and mike Huckabee are and how I doubt he has any idea what's going on. I think he should be informed. He was the governor at one time, So why couldn't he Help in some way getting Paul the recognition he deserves? I wonder if there's anything he could do...

Yes my father is still living. He's the one who taught me all about pwk before I got a chance to meet and work with Mrs K and Mr Wyatt of course. I appreciate you guys wanting to help. I'm trying to think of ways to possibly help Mrs K get those jerks back. guess it's a good thing I don't have to work with Jeff cook (SWAAC director) since I can't stand the mere sight of him. Or any of them for that matter. Any Hope Arkansas city official.

I don't think any of you have the exact correct information on all this, but a few of you are pretty close. Mrs Klipsch has not lost this battle I can assure you that. No matter what rumors fly I believe the outcome of the whole thing, given time, will surprise you all.