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Welcome to the forum! Nice speakers! What are the dimensions of the room including ceiling height? Others may chime in...

Hi there I´am new owner of the Klipsch Cornwall. How is you experience with room size for Cornwall and La Scala. I´am interested in La Scala, but don´t know if my room is big enough? My listening room is about 40 yard (34 kvm) Thanks Rytmik :-)

Hey, you have my summer avatar. Are you in Australia?

My LS clones are in a 16'x22' room with 9' ceilings. Speakers are on the long wall and 10' on center. Sitting area sweet spot is also 10' (on the triangle vertex). Sounds okay to my ears.

My room is 410 square feet; I do not own any Cornwalls, yet. Sorry, we don't deal with metric much so have to use a converter.

Looks plenty big enough and appears that you may have them turned slightly towards your listening position. How do they sound to you? Where do the LaScala come into this?

Do you have a listening position where you like to listen or do you move around?

billybob. That thought has occured to me. Dayton is my hometown. If DeanG was open to it I may take them down there when I visit sometime. I'll have to reach out to him and see if he's interested.

Hi everyone. Just registered and wanted to introduce myself. Been lurking a long time and a long time Klipsch fan. I was raised with K-Horns and LaScalas. Currently running a Cornwall III 2 ch. system and HT with KLF-30's and 10's plus KLF C-7, Marantz separates and Klipsch sub. Many of you seem to be experts, so I'm not sure what I can contribute, but glad to be here. I'm an amateur musician and probably more of a music lover than an equipment freak, although it depends on the day of week. Decided to post in the 2 channel area since it seemed likely that most members read it. Thanks to everyone for broadening my perspectives, even though you weren't aware of it (or me) until now. Cheers!! Chuck

What makes Pioneer Elite receivers "elite"? I've been comparing the Elite SC-72 to the regular SC-1323 since Amazon had the latter on sale last Sunday for $599. They share all the same features, have an identical rear panel, and have the same MSRP of $1300. The only differences I can discern are a slightly different power rating (130 watts vs 125 watts), the SC-72 is 1.82" longer in depth, and the 72 has "Elite" styling cues. Of course the "Elite" branded models can only be sold at B&M stores (unless you want to risk no warranty) so you'll have a harder time finding good deals like Amazon had on the 1323. Is the "Elite" branding just a marketing ploy to protect Best Buy Magnolia's diminishing share of the market? I'll grant you that the higher end "Elite" models like SC-79 & SC-77 don't currently have equivalent regular Pioneer receiver models.

Right below everyone of my posts - unless you have disabled the feature, in which case you wouldn't see anyone's signature section (where everyone else normally lists their gear). www.aletheiaaudio.com I also just bought: www.klipschcrossovers.com

Good stuff for everyone. its good to share links, some people have no clue as to what is out there. Well done. I hope more guys kick down......

Either one would be a good pick. The Marantz for $300 is a great price if its in good working condition. The Mac wont sound twice as good for twice the price but if it has been checked over and near mint would also be a good choice.

Well I sent an email to view these speakers. Will see what happens. John

My room is funky shaped.. about 8'x24' with space carved out of that for a closet and a bathroom. The speakers sit along the long wall, out about 1.5ft and my listening chair is against the opposite wall. The Cornwalls are 6ft apart and 6ft from my head. Sounds good to me.

I have my LS in a room that is about 3.4m x 6.1m with ceiling of 2.43m. I use low power 2A3 amps, and sit back out 3.5m. When I do serious listening I move some things out of the way. The sound is great, plenty of bass, the music takes me to another place. I only heard Cornwalls once, while visiting the Klipsch facility in Indianapolis, IN one year. Personally, there was too much bass for my tastes. I would like to hear them somewhere else to compare. ... and welcome to the forums! Bruce

Thank you very much Sancho.

Yours is a very nice looking space!

After fooling with active systems for a few years now my #1 recommendation is to ONLY use amplifiers that have gain controls. Especially in a home environment you will only need to open the gains a small amount more than likely. The last thing you want is an unattenuated amp hissing away at full blast and no way to turn it down or to control your gain structure. Ideally, you would have the same amps on most or all channels. Seriously, with gain controls on your amps you will find you can take most of the gain up front via your source and/or preamp, hit the processor with its minimum requirement (or more) to be sure you get full resolution through the processor, and take the MINIMUM gain needed at the amps. This will make your system quiet. You can also use the gains to balance your channels rather than have one channel in the processor at -8db to equalize the top and bottom sections. Once I figured these simple things out, I had a much quieter and more dynamic system. Made a big difference. I think that everyone who "goes active" needs to experiince the whole thing for the themselves to figure it out and what works best for their application..........but a few tips can save you a lot of headaches. Just trying to help.

pretty much the same size as my room.

I can see where this is going LOL, OK, lets talk coffee! What a lot of people do not realize is that as a food product, like all food products, when it is cooked (roasted) the clock is ticking. For drinks like Espresso, two weeks is about all you get before the roasted beans are plant food or mulch. The degassing really needs 2 or 3 days until the beans hit their peak, they stay there for about 5 days then slowly go down hill. This is why we never advise anyone buying coffee with a BEST BY or USE BEFORE date, the beans are hopelessly stale long before you bought them as these dates are anywhere from 6 months to a year and a half, much longer than the two weeks that you get from fresh roast! The only way to know how old they are is with a ROASTED ON date, the actual day they were roasted, then is is a simple process to look at the bag, look at todays date and see how long it has been since they were roasted! Everyone needs a grinder, you need to grind just before brewing, This is not a whirly blade chopper that is sometimes sold as a coffee grinder, you need a good burr grinder. The blade chopper produces everything from dust to boulders. The dust will overextract nearly instantly and the boulders will never give up the goodness inside them, you need a burr grinder. The reason you need to grind it just before use is that due to the surface area, your ground beans will spoil and be stale in about 15 minutes from the time you grind them. Coffee is a food product and it does spoil. Think of an apple. If you cut it open, in about 15 minutes, the white flesh turns brown right? The same thing is going on with your coffee but because it is brown to start with, you do not see it. Now cut that apple into a thousand small pieces and let them sit for 15 minutes, there are few who would want to eat that rotten apple mush that it has become but hundreds of thousands of people every day, pack that spoiled coffee mush into drip filters and brew something to drink.... yuck! The time frame for methods other than espresso can go a little longer, perhaps up to a month before the beans are gone, espresso is the hardest thing you can do to the beans to make a drink with, evey little nuance is there to taste. With other methods, they are a bit more forgiving but you can still taste the difference. Properly roasted coffee should not produce oil, much of the coffee is over roasted and nearly everything from Charbucks is burnt. The darker you roast the beans the more you taste the process and the less you taste the beans, at the point of producing oil, you are well into burning the beans. A city or city + roast is about the limit for the coffee I drink, I want to taste the beans, the flavors, the chocolate, cocoa, lemon, orange, spice flavors. Coffee grown on the same farm but higher or lower in elevation will taste different, let alone from other farms, other soils even other countries, the taste is different for each! Over roasting the beans causes them all to taste like charcoal, at Charbucks, that is good as they can buy lower quality beans, roast the dog poop out of them so they all taste the same then mix 2 oz of "coffee" with 16 oz of milk and suguar, syrup and sprinkels then the buyer of said drink never tastes the coffee that they are supposidly paying for. Cat poop coffee, nope not going there either. EVEN if it were true about tasting good (I really doubt it) Cevits today are force fed the beans on farms. The TRUE cat poop coffee is supposed to be found in the wild where the Cevits can pick and choose what to eat, supposidly only the choicest and best beans. On a force fed farm, all choice is gone so all you are gettng is poop made with the least expensive beans they can feed the poor Cevits. French bread, great stuff, by law in France, true french bread is only 4 items Flour, water yeast and sugar. It is regulated to size and shape too. I love to bake and have commercial equipment to make larger batches, I hate to take a full day to make bread from scratch and only get 2 loafs, heck to get a dozen it only takes about an hour more total so go big or go home! LOL. It freezes well so it does not go to waste.

I would buy a vintage Marantz 22 or 2300 series receiver (sold on Ebay daily), and a pair of HII's. For Marantz vintage, the last 3 digit tell the wattage at 8ohms less 200. In other words, a 2225 is 25 watts x2. A 2325 is 125 watts x2. The vintage Marantz receivers are the best looking receivers out there. Good WAF, but manly at the same time. I wouldn't bother with a sub, unless you are listening to hip-hop or organ music, etc. Those Heresy's do a darn good job.

I think it is big enough for a pair of either.

Sounds great. A little bit dry, I thing it´s the italien amp. Would like to try valve amplification, when I can afford it. More 3 D and space, than i could imagine. I thing the La Scala looks great, and wonder if the room is to small for them.

Thanks billybob. Dimension are: 5,63 meters x 5,93 meters. 33,4 kvm. and I have a listening position. I have uploaded a picture of my room. Thanks for helping :-)

Having been convinced of the audibility of cables in home audio systems and in full belief of all the claims made in the advertisements of cable companies, I have found a device with even more magical properties than wire. As soon as I finish typing this I am going to order one: http://www.rane.com/pi14.html

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seems i recall back in the day the Elites were hand assembled. don't know if thats true today or not the only thing i found was that they are of higher quality and the gloss black Urushi finish just read Kuro means black in japanese love their stuff for 40 yrs now. their gold line spacers and rosewood side panels on receivers and cd players

Ok, the extra year of warranty on Elite branded receivers is another difference, but only if you buy from a B&M store.

Youtube video

Or you could send to DeanG...

Why don't you just send them to Crites?

Follow the directions in TAA article. Slowly add 2oz of Elvanol powder to 400 ml (~1.7 cups) of COLD distilled water in the top part of the "double boiler" stirring constantly (I use a clean wooden chopstick from a takeout Chinese order and throw it away at the end) as the powder is gradually added to the distilled water. Then put that container in the cold water in the lower part of the "double boiler." I use a saucepan with a vegetable steamer on the bottom to allow the gradually heating water to circulate around and under the glass vase. Turn the heat on to bring the water in the lower part to a boil. Using a glass vase allows me to easily see any clumps of solids, break them up against the side of the vase and stir them into suspension. The slow and gradual heating process takes 30-45 minutes, or longer. I turn the heat down several times to keep the water in the sauce pan from boiling over. As long as the water is gently boiling it's hot enough (remember, at sea level water can only get to 212f, unless under pressure, like in a radiator). The "slurry" (mixture) should be heated to ~95c (203f). You're done when the slurry has changed from milky to clear with the look and viscosity of Karo syrup. I tend to keep stirring while making certain that all solids are dissolved. Remove the container with the slurry from the double boiler and slowly add the glycerin, Photo-Flo, alcohol, Cyastat and enough distilled water to bring the volume of the mixture to ~500 ml (~2 cups). Stir constantly while adding the ingredients. At first, the relatively cold (room temperature) additional ingredients will will cause cloudy streaks to form in the slurry. Keep stirring until the entire mixture is again clear with the Karo syrup appearance. Allow the mixture to cool to room temperature. After it's cooled, I put it in a push-to-close plastic water bottle from the dollar store. It will keep indefinitely at room temperature with the top closed. Good luck and please share your results. Reg Williamson Record Cleaner The following is the recipe using 2 oz of Dupont Elvanol. Distilled Water (initially) 1.5 cups (400 cc or ml) Elvanol 2 oz (.25 cup or 56 gm) Glycerin 2 tsp (8.5 cc) Kodak Photo-Flo 200 3-4 drops Alcohol 3 1/3 tbsp (11tsp or 50 ml) CYASTAT SN 1/2 tsp (2.5 ml) 1 teaspoon (tsp) = 5 ml (actually 4.929 but close enough) 1 Tablespoon (tbsp) = 15 ml (ml = cc) RECIPE.pdf

Man, what I could do with that critter. When I see 'Lifting' rings on top of a speaker, im in heaven.

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Not a bad person at all, just one who planned and chose well. Can't blame O for that I already blamed him for everything else, comes with the position.

I recapped my heresy myself and they sound awesome. I will probably just buy the kits and do them myself. Since they already sound great, I am pretty confident that new caps will be just fine.

J&R Alternative for my first of the day.

"The narrow slot in front of the La Scala woofer increases the airspeed at the start of the bass horn, and allows a regular cone driver to act like a compression driver. Horn speakers have a lot of sophisticated engineering, which is not always obvious when you're looking at a pair of black-painted plywood boxes." Awesome Islander, I say this to myself evey time I'm listening to my big black boxes

A little entertainment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UQDTZcpsDE&feature=player_embedded

You have the right to remain silent.... Also, welcome to the "forum."

I love how much Mark fires up the passion some have for this hobby that no one is really an authority in but so many like to think they are! It's pretty easy to listen to something you like and buy then enjoy the music. I treat audio just like video, I went back several times to Best Buy and watched every 50" LCD and Plasma model until I determined what I considered the best picture and bought it and have enjoyed it for 4 years now and who cares if anyone else likes it or thinks their's is better. Nothing but ego going now, I bought the 50" store brand a couple years later and we love that one as well, wife's TV and she loves it because it's brighter which it is but I/We enjoy both of them. I have two separate systems in the Man Cave and realize what both are and what both are strong and weak at but love them both. Buy what you like, enjoy what you buy and who cares what others think they know:-)

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I felt the same, but because digital music files are digital data, I took the computer plunge only to be better able to manage the data. Then I discovered Pure Music for critical listening. It uses Itunes is the database for music files it plays. As an added benefit Itunes plays well with my Iphone for portability and when not critically listening it sends output to my whole house audio system or any other Apple TV device in the home. Great source and output flexibility. HD for me is anything that is not an MP3. MP3s generally have a reproduction flaw that can irritate my listening enjoyment on a critical listening sound system. Although I have and enjoy MP3s away from critical listening, the added clarity and dynamics of well mastered flac, dsd and Apple lossless music files is noticeable with critical listening. So much so I had to find a quieter amp attached to my tweeter horns for quieter jazz, vocal and classical HD music. For me the computer and sound card became my pre amp so on balance it is even money for me. BTW Pure Vinyl, a companion product to Pure Music, allows me to use the inputs of my sound card to easily play LPs or use any other analogue source. For me a computer front end for my critical listening system gives me great enjoyment at a reasonable price with great flexibility at a reasonable cost.

180 gram re master in the house

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