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Technics did make some belt drive turntables, but they were entry-level models. All the SL-1200/1210, 1300, 1400, 1500, 1600, 1700, and 1800 were direct drive. The models from SL-1300 to SL-1800 were discontinued many years ago, but I don't know why. I think the SL-1200/1210 models were higher-end, but that's referring to all the pre-2011 models. No Technics turntables were produced between 2010 and 2016. The current series came out in 2016, and they're years ahead of all the old series, as you would expect.

You needed a heavier head shell? You youngsters today are so picky. Back when I was young, we'd just tape a heavy coin or two to the head shell. No skipping then. And we liked it! Seriously, I once saw a record player with a steel bottle/can opener taped to the tonearm. Tracking weight was probably 50-100 grams! BTW, great taste in music.

In 2019 I had a local cabinet maker build me some Cornwall/Altec 19 inspired two ways from 3/4” baltic birch. He even used baltic birch for bracing and at my request, we ended up making the motorboard 1.5” thick (2.25” where the t-nuts for the woofer mount) for no good reason. These speakers have provided countless hours of crossover and driver experimentation. I have left them configured with 15PR400-4s and HF-146 on ZXPC horns. They are crossed at 700HZ and sound very balanced. I’m sure a digital active crossover would have been much easier to work out but clearly I like old school stuff. The crossover was by far the most frustrating part of working through this design and I don’t claim it’s perfect. They are very dynamic/efficient and more polite than my Cornwall IIs were but still posses a front and center presentation. Alas I think I am ready to move to a smaller box for continued scientific experiments. These are 23.5x24x43.5” and guessing they are roughly 150 pounds each! You can experiment to your heart’s content or leave them as they are. I am near Cedar Rapids Iowa. $2000

My ultimate TT ?? Empire 698. 🙂

https://vintagetechnics.audio/turntables.php

Could be worse. They used to come without a plinth or tonearm...

Mine as well , had to exchange it after 4 weeks , so I got a new one w/out paying twice because I kept the bill.

It was a good start to the new week, I moved 2 doors into the basement, the ones from the kitchen and the bedroom. Instead I put very nice curtains in the door frames on tension rods, it looks great. Now all the rooms are freely accessible and the new apartment looks like an open loft. I also installed new lamps in the kitchen and the listening room. The new bed for the bedroom was also delivered last Saturday, so I no longer have to sleep on the air bed. Although I got used to it after more than 6 weeks, it's much better to sleep in the new bed. Everything is progressing, the apartment is getting nicer and nicer and I'm feeling dam´n good. My son will be visiting me soon, I'm really looking forward to seeing him, my daughter is still traveling the world and won't be coming to visit me until January 2024.

that´s a real nice vintage TT @the real Duke Spinner

🤣, so true , as we were youngsters we didn´t took care about it because of missing aknowledgement , we didn´t knew so much things at that time , no we´re adult and learned a lot , so we know how to handle these things in order to do it right today .

??? The SL-1210G, the whole SL-12XX series, and the SL-1000 are all direct drive. Which belt-drive deck were you referring to?

Here you go

Gus & Finn

@the real Duke Spinner See what I mean.....

Single Klipsch heritage series belle speaker,oak finish later production run with better crossover with better speaker binding post and drivers.Very good condition must pick up in Sevierville,Tennessee .The ultimate center channel speaker. I tried to include pictures but too large, I will be glad to email pictures to anyone interested in the speaker

Give me a couple days i have to take it( the tweeter) back out of the speaker .After i pulled ou tand separated the magnet /driver at its glued on to the teeter housing it was bear to separate the two pieces the fan like thing is the driver/magnet these are pictures i pulled from ebay but mine are exactly the same the dome shaped pieces with tiny wires are wedged inside the traxis horn i cant even get the diaphram terminal separated to be able solder the wires to the it ill get you more pics of mine this weekend

Not a bad set of speakers.

Never would have thought, thanks for explaining that. Now I better understand JohnA's concern about identity theft.

A Belle Klipsch goes very well between La Scalas, too. Also, it can be hard to find a single. I had to buy a pair to get one ideal centre speaker/TV stand. Yes, the Belle is a dual-purpose speaker.

Back in the day it was common practice to etch everything from of value with your DL, driver’s license number, so that if it was stolen you had a chance of it being recovered. Police departments recommended this and would give talks at about it at different clubs and events. Travis

Find a Type AK-2 or AK-3 and use that. A Type A is probably not a good match for any of the 3 drivers in your cabinets.

Correct. I think “shoehorned” would be the correct nomenclature. they are supposed to be wired in series/parallel with one woofer in each pair wired as if they were out of phase since they are facing the same direction. This should put everything correctly in phase while reducing 2nd order distortion due to balancing out any driver nonlinearities and vibration. or whatever. I don’t think the original version that Dennis made was ever measured and this might only be the second time anyone has tried this. The specs on the woofer suggest that it will work well but the plenum chamber firing into the throat can also act as a low pass filter and I haven’t really modeled that part of it in Hornresp.

You Sir, may byte me! 😂😂😂 FYI my Linn dude puts a couple lil arrows on my belt so every year I just flip it. Told me it would last about 5-10years that way. On year 3 and just flipped it last week. Last I checked it was running @ 33.32 rpm's. Cart hours? Logs? Nickle dime stuff? Blah! You obviously need something to do with your spare time. 😂😂😂

Sure had forgotten yours ...when it´s time to change the belt ? I suppose once a year should make sense

Can I join in? I too have belt driven.. or a few of TD 165 AR XA BIC 940 Dual 1246 and a Pro-Ject Debut series Hmm seems belt driven is all I have...

Well, you have not given us any idea what the overall design might be (priorities, budget etc). So comments by me and others might be be wildly off the mark, but that is not our fault since you were the one that did not provide the design goals. That said, I don't believe the K-402 with an adequate driver needs a super tweeter. I say this for several reasons. First, there is not much energy in the highest octave (either from the instruments originally or in the recording). Second, most of us, if we are willing to admit it, don't have very good hearing up at the top of the spectrum. We think we do, but in reality......... That sad, the original, commercial version of the Jubilee was 3-way system and used a K-510 horn with a K-69 driver as a tweeter and the K-402 was limited to the mid-frequencies. In a commercial application the systems are run fairly loud, 12 hrs/day and 7 days/week so they needed a more robust combination of driver & horns. In a home environment a 2-way is fine. Second, although Be drivers can sound wonderful, finding them is very difficult and spares are nearly impossible to find. In either case, those drivers and spare diaphragms can be prohibitively expensive (again you never specified budget considerations). There are others who used Be drivers on the K-402 (JBL 24xx with Truexent diaphragms or simply used TAD 4002 drivers) and reported great success. These were mostly used on the "old" Jubilee systems. My personal advice is that you should first layout your design goals and priorities. Good luck, -Tom

Different amps have different characteristics, and vary in their sound presentation, clarity, detail retrieval, and so on. That said, a variety of amps can be said to sound excellent, while all sounding slightly different. In the same way, there are many different restaurants, all serving different styles of food (different "cuisines"). Which one is best? Which food is best? There can be many "very good', some "excellent", and so on. Best? Is great French food better than great Japanese food? That would be impossible to say. I have not heard Cornwalls, but I can say that La Scalas can sound great when powered with amplifiers putting out anything between 5 and 500 watts per speaker. The advantage of higher power is that clipping is less likely to become an issue, but depending on your choice of music and listening levels, that may never become an issue, so that factor could be irrelevant to you, while it might be a major concern for another person. So one can say that there is no best power amplifier for any speaker, just as there is no best speaker, although the Heritage Jubilee would have to be among the very best speakers, of course. There's no point in insulting each other, because this goes beyond the specs, as I discussed above. Beyond a certain threshold of sound quality/performance, there is a variety of amps that can be extremely satisfying to listen to. Can we just agree on that, and quit the sniping at each other?

Wow! 75K? JJK

L'il Barney - a very weird and strange, possibly deranged dog.

Max our 11yo Black Lab rescue having to listen to the radio in-lieu of albums.

7 yr old Scout we found as a stray a few years ago.

Cat Napping -- Casper

Riley

Two rescued dogs with us.

According to Wiki, 110' tall, 133 steps. Not gigantic, I'm just that outta shape Steven climbed with ease, of course. Here's a few more, for the curious.

I wouldn't know. Height phobic and seasick prone old lady over here. Steven loved it though!

Thank you so much.

I actually have one, just don't like lugging it around. I do love the freedom it gives for night photography, but I'm rarely out after dark.

It was on a chair That building made me very nervous to look at. The railing was regular height and it looked as though someone could easily topple off it. Also, our window went all the way to the floor. I and wobbly knees every time I ventured near it, ha

Spent the weekend in Chicago...first ever Cubs game. Among other sites...

Mais oui! But where on earth did that come from? ha

Okay, the girl friend who wanted Blose is out, and the CWs stayed. Now back to business....I'd like to slowly build a Heritage HT in a 16X 21 room using the CWs as the front speakers. I've heard Heresys would make great surrounds (if I had the space would a 2nd set of CWs be better?). . What do you guys suggest for a sub and center channel (Heritage). What are some well matched amps/recievers for this type of system. Is there a way to do this w/o winning the lottery or becoming a drug lord? KOZ

If you had say- $5-7K to spend on HT - would you spend it on Heritage speakers, and use the balance on some electronics or would you spend it all on one of the new Reference systems?

Chris- WAF/GFAF? My dilema for the center.... a fireplace. I can't put anything on the floor. So the monitor is going up above the mantle and I need a center speaker that can fit on the wall under/over the monitor. Regarding the Khorns- are they noticable better than CWs, even to a moderatly skilled ear (like mine?) I've always thought they looked cool - but have never hear them. That brings up another issue for Heritage speakers - where can you find them to listen to? I'm in the Seattle, WA area if anyone has some ideas. What a great forum!! KOZ

Well, you guys were right.........I've said good bye to the girlfriend....Now on to the serious business of figuring out my HT. I'd like to stay with the Cornwalls for the front L&R and add some quality center and surround speakers. How do the new reference series Klipsch compare with the CWs? Are they compatible? Just for the record- I'm an old fart (52) who is just getting back into audio. After raising the kids...it's my time. But, I'm pretty rusty on today's technology (but hey, the journey is at least half the fun, right?). So here's my question: I know you are all believers in Klipsch - but are today's Klipsch still the "quality" speakers they once were? Seriously. Or are they just a good value? Something I saw this weekend is bugging me: I was at Best Buy and saw several Klipsch speakers for HT systems. I believe they were the "Synergy" series. Anyway- the construction did not look like high quality stuff- and it bothered me enough that I walked out w/o even listening to them. They weren't even grouped with the higher-end products. I was shocked to see Klipsch at Best Buy. When I bought my CWs in 1980- I had to travel out of town to a small, high-end, HiFi store to get them. Have they become a product for the masses???? Don't get me wrong-- I want to believe.....I just need to understand. KOZ

Timmikid- I've never had the backs off the CWs - and I'm not an electronics hobyist (although I am an electrical engineer). How difficult is it to upgrade the networks...and is it practical for me to attempt? How much $$. Thanks for the great advice.

Jay- You don't know how accurate your statement is......she has closets of shoes, most are so impractical she cannot were them w/o limping by the end of the day. The CWs are staying.

That is really great to hear. I've always wondered how they compare to newer technology and "high end" speakers. Another question I've had is do the speakers deteriorate over time (not missuse). Does the woofer get brittle or anything like that. Kind of like bad eye sight- I wonder if the Cornwalls might go bad slowly over time and I don't notice it.

New relationship, remodeling the house........but deep down I'm not sure I want to get rid of them. They've been with me a long time....