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Crites speakers sells replacement gaskets. This, is the most likely source of the distortion you're hearing. before you spend another cent, replace them.

My Heresy IIs, without tags on the backs. Rectangular terminal cups. Stapled on the inside, a little card with some dates. I will assume the date on the lower left, 2-22-89, is very close to the finish date. I love these speakers.

This evening... Jonah

I saw Grand Funk twice in the 70's. My favorite band for years. They're not Grand Funk without Farner.

Hi, My Funny Valentine by Miles Davis, a Dutch CBS reissue from the mid-80s! https://www.discogs.com/fr/release/4698128-Miles-Davis-My-Funny-Valentine-Miles-Davis-In-Concert My Miles Davis collection is slowly growing, I'm missing three albums, "Four" & more, Big Fun and Water Babies >>> 🤩

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Thank you! Very informative forum. And thanks for the feedback! Glad to hear they match well! Hoping to have a chance and listen at a local shop in the next couple of weeks.

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I thought the resident cheerleader would be here soon to copy/paste something. He must be out sick.

Oops, you are right. I was thinking 10 VOLTS! My faux pas...

Ummmm no 10mV is a really low input sensitivity. The VRD was setup at the industry standard for a power amp of 1 Volt to full power. That is what input sensitivity rating is (input voltage to full power). Most modern integrated amplifier (power amp with volume control and source selector switch) are around 500mV to full power. 10mV is insanely sensitive which Leak amps are renowned for! Which also makes them extremely suspectable to noise pickup. Cheers Craig

Thanks and back to Altec vs. LS.

No way in h that was lean wagu! Cooked 'em medium rare put the chives, the cheese, and a little bit of sea salt on them. Then a few shrooms some dukes on the toast, some limas and a couple of clausons pickles. I put the cleaned blackberries back in the fridge with that cheesecake it won't thaw out till tomorrow. So until then guys and gals. I'll put the pics up when I can do it without slowing my phone down seriously for the next week.

what's a morning without a little Belew, Fripp, Levin and Bruford

It’s been about three months since I got the KI-102-SMA-II Klipsch Professional “permanent installation” series speakers to uses as Atmos/DTS-X, to upgrade the Jubilee system from 5.0 to 5.0.6. The upgrade is finally complete. The last items to do since my last post were to run the speaker wire, purchase a new Atmos/DTS-X processor, a multichannel amplifier, a new equipment rack, and put all that stuff in place. Since old my equipment rack was full and because of where my equipment rack sits in the bay window area, I could not purchase a wider one. So, I had to go taller. About the only option that I could find that had the height and the shelf adjustability that I wanted was the Salamander Archetype. It also had the advantage of having an option of solid walnut shelves to go with my walnut Jubilee. I purchased two 3-shelf units and the stacking kit to get the needed height plus an additional 2-shelf unit to get the additional shelves and hardware that I wanted. It was a pain in the butt threading all those nuts, but I’m pleased with the results. For the processor, I replaced the Emotiva XMC-1 with the Emotiva RMC-1L. I mainly did this because I need the functionality of the built-in multichannel parametric EQ for manual room correction and the RMC-1L can directly use the EQ files from the XMC-1. The interface isn’t the most modern, but I decided that I could live with that to get the exact functionality that I wanted. However, the sound quality is great, no complaints there. For the multichannel amp to drive the Atmos speakers, I got an Outlaw Model 7000x. I have an Outlaw model 5000 in my basement theater system, and it hardly breaks a sweat, so I figured the Outlaw would be a good choice for Atmos speakers. It’s a great value for the money too. I also put my Xbox One S from the family room in the system to have a 4K player there. However, I’ll probably replace that with one of the Reavon players when the funds replenish. I did the first listen with the Atmos mix of Dark Side of the Moon and the system sounds fantastic. The KI-102 are great for Atmos speakers. I then listened to a native Atmos recording, Gabrielli in Venice (https://www.kings.cam.ac.uk/choir/listen-to-the-choir/recordings/1615-gabrieli-venice). It was recorded in Atmos in the Kings College Chapel. All the Atmos channels are heavily used reproducing the ambience of the Chapel. It was the most realistic reproduction of a recording space that I have ever heard. Thanks to Cory of @Paducah Home Theater for announcing the blowout sale of the KI-102 a few months ago. You caused me was a bunch of work to get this upgrade done, but I’m very pleased with the results. Now, I just need to buy a bigger TV for this room.

Both do different things No good answer I have had both

FeedBack and Gain are not related

Not familiar with that model. I’m guessing it doesn’t say anything about it in the manual?

Let us know what you think please. Thanks

Yes yes yes

Sansui + Klipsch equal Bliss. Welcome @Estes

@BubbleCub Are these new? Could you post a pic by any chance? I have some of the same drivers.

Most high quality vintage gear matches really well with Klipsch.

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Didn’t we just have a whole thread about LS resonance? However, the answer is yes, less of a bloom and better definition.

Sounds like a great class for Boneheads!

Thanks a lot. Do you have a name or mail address I should contact at Klipsch? Someone who is responsible and also kind and nice to help?

A hollow wall with sheetrock on both sides is like a bass drum. Filling the cavity WILL help. Again we just don't know how much without measurements.

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Not sure yet whether I publised this one here allready ?

Thanks. My ceiling isn't really high enough either, but I didn't let that stop me. 🙂

I have had 2 pairs of H1 BR and HII WO and have a pair of 1.5 waiting for me to pick up and they have removable backs. These are my HII. I remember reading something about the HII having either a round or square terminal box.

With respect to Klipsch speakers in particular, it's not simply that a speaker is 2-way or 3-way. In my opinion what sets Heritage and the other 3-way Klipsch (like the 3-way Legend series and the Palladium series) apart from the 2-way Klipsch consumer lines is that more of the frequency range is covered by horn-loaded drivers. In the Klipsch consumer lines of speakers, most of the 2-way speakers hand off from horns to cones in the range of 1200 Hz to as high as 2500 Hz. In contrast, the consumer line 3-way speakers (that are not fully horn-loaded) transition from horns to cones in a range of like 500 Hz to 850 Hz. This means that the consumer 3-way and fully horn-loaded speakers will have less distortion and better coverage control in the critical lower and middle region of the mid-range frequencies where the bulk of the musical and vocal action is. To my ears the 3-way Klipsch consumer speakers and the fully-horn-loaded ones (whether 3-way or 2-way like the Jubilee) sound more effortless, cleaner, less veiled, and more accurate in the mid-range. I call it the Klipsch "mid-range magic". The difference in the bass response is mainly due to the RF-7 III having a much larger cabinet volume. The larger 3-way Klipsch speakers can go lower than the Heresy as well. The Forte IV might be closer to the "equivalent" of the RF-7 III in the Heritage line.

My first piece of advice I can give you is stop going by what you're told and go by what YOU hear. This is a self-gratification type hobby. If the sound from your own system pleases you the job is complete. Also do not be so presumptuous as to think just because you love how it sounds others should too! There are absolutely no absolutes in this hobby. Now onto the rest...I suggest you invest in a better digital front end...if everything is "right" you should hear very little difference in the sound of the two formats. Do not think this requires megabucks to be spent. Look for the latest greatest DAC from 5 or more years ago on the used market and also make sure you are listening to digital recordings up to the task. Good Luck Craig PS don't get me wrong I'm a vinyl lover! But digital can sound every bit as good if done right.

True. Is there a reason you pointed that out?

You can actually cut these rubber seals yourself from a rubber mat of the same thickness. I did it successfully until I had original ones. These looked nicer but the positive effect was the same. The main thing is that the inside of the rubber ring is not in the way of the sound, therefore cut out the hole nice and wide. This measure is essential after 45 years. Here you can see my DIY seals, the black one, the red one is the original which was dried out and crumbled.

We used to sail on the Islemeer many years and we were on Texel many times as well. Oh I love the netherlands... Rotterdam, Amsterdam , Eindhoven, Gronigen, den´Bosch ...visited sooo much cities ....The netherlands are one of the best countries to life in europe ..... Ja Heinz that´s a good idea ,kindly involve me for further communication in this matter for the upcoming spring in 2024 !

The internet ( or at least this forum ) is funny that way. Orwell warned us of this....

Are you sure it was factory built? I thought they just had the Dynaco label on them, like the one below (not my pic, and mine was a kit, got it for $50 from the builder)

Factory built st70. Another el34 amp that is a reliable like an old friend. Does not have the crystal clarity of the fishers nor all of the thump but for most recordings it is just fine. I believe it is the best selling amp of all time. I bet everyone here has heard, if not owned one.

The original driver specs are stated on a 6' air column are the -10dB points of the response.

1. 10" TC Sounds LMS-4000<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Bad choice for a car unless you want a big box. This sub doest work well ported and really requires a large sealed box. If you want a sealed sub this is great, but expect to use at least 3 cubic feet for this guy 2. JL 8w7 or 10w7 Dont even consider the 8, total waste of money. But the 10" is a great driver. Its got adequate cone area for a 10 and a pretty beefy voice coil. Not quite as wide or as long as the LMS-4000 and its less layers so it wont handle as much power, but its more sensitive and can work in a smaller box because it got more BL product. 3. 10" Adire Audio Brahma Another good choice, but anticipate a large box, I believe the Brahma is linear under hung driver so it should have great SQ but not nearly as much throw as the LMS-4000 or JL 10W7. 4. 8" or 10" Ascendant Audio Assassin Certainly a step down in motor and voice coil. These will not have the output or displacement of the others, but probably sound great. Looks like Ascendant uses copper under the gap which is a great SQ feature on a sub-100 dollar driver. 5. Madison Dragon 18 or Executioner X 21 Dont know much about this hope that helped.

That is not a frequency response, that is a 10% THD measurement at discrete frequencies, and I'm not experienced enough to comment on it.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

What did i say it was?

This thread is really running over the Klipschs latest sub designs, I wouldnt count out the RT12-d against the 112 or even 13 for that matter. Sure it doest have as much system power at least from the basic numbers provided, but the RT-12D driver out matches both the 13 and 12W7 for BL product which means it has more motor! And unless its also a thin 2-layer vc like the W7s, it should be able to outclass both drivers for power handling even with a smaller vc diameter. Unless the HTW7 uses a copper coil too, and more layers, the RT12 should run with it for power handling if not beat it.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> However, I do suspect JL may have snuck in a copper coil for their HTW7 to make it perform better in that small box that is just my speculation. Now the notable thing about the RT12 is that its flat out going to kill at least the F113 around 20Hz, There is no way a sealed box can keep up with a ported box at Fb at least one like the RT12, and the RT 12 has some big passives which act as a huge port not some wimpy stuff lingering around these days. The RT12 sub is also a 13 driver so it technically has more surface area than the JL 12W7, more BL product and higher power handling if Im not mistaken, these things DO matter and when you add the fact that a vented box is going to kill a sealed box for output, then the only thing that the F112 has for it is a little more power.. big deal. I wouldnt count out the RT12 just yet, not until a formal and un subjective review can give us the facts. If I had to buy 2000 dollar DSP subwoofer, I wouldnt spend the extra money on the 12 Fathom just yet, I would stick with the Klipsch based on the numbers I have seen and my limited experience. Thats just my options. I wish an engineer would post in this thread and back up the RT12, I hope what I said was at least mostly accurate. Good job Klipsch, I hope all the new subs are as good as the RTs look to be! I will probably own one soon! For the price of that Gothom, I could own four!

The Bl for the W7 is around 17 Tm over the ~3 ohm impedance. the HTW7 may be a differenct coil but the motor is probably the same. There is a good chance the HTW7 is a copper coil which would give it a little more BL over the 12/13W7<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> The sensitivity does not matter so much in a box, because many other factors dominate the output, but you certainly want to maximize cone area and minimize mass. The W7 does use an overroll surround so they get back some of the cone area from the fat one they have because it covers the edge of the basket. Both the W7 and LMS-5400 are awesome drivers, and they among the few that actually use a larger 10" suspension system and custom frames. Many subwoofers these days simply use older stock parts and claim high excursion but really can't overcome many compliance linearity issues. The inductance value for the W7 is actually very low, it uses half as much coil as a standard coil and the poll piece is drilled out. They claim is some sort of cooling deal but this also will lower inductance because there is less steel for the coil to see. This is partly why its such a great design. The LMS-5400 also shows characteristics of low inductance with its extra wide gap from the linear coil, the T/S seem to back that up. As regards to the new XXX, it looks impressive and they do use a wide suspension, I think its 10", but you can't get a linear 54 mm out of that unless its some new crazy design I have not seen. The new XXX will also not top the LMS-5400 or 13W7 cone area being equal. The BL product is less than both and less than twice that of the LMS driver, the sensitivity is also much lower. Formal tests should be done, I may be wrong. Who knows....

Well, the W7's are well engineered, but are approaching and end of a lifecycle. The LMS-5400 has a longer and wider voice coil than the 13W7 and it has a more windings for higher power handling and the driver itself has about 75% more BL product too. Not to mention its a total linear driver on top of that for even lower distortion. The LMS-5400 comes in a 12" and should outclass the 13W7 with even less cone area.

Only the first post is mine, the second is by Mark Deneen. At any rate, I don't see where either demeans or degrades Mike's efforts. Magnequest has an excellent reputation, but there are also other manufacturers, though not as well known -- who also do excellent work.