MyOwn Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, 001 said: oddly , enough , it was the Peace and Love Generation who promised to protect the birds and the bees , and the Planet - Peace is good, Loving is good. “We don’t have to save her. She can save herself. We just have to stop making her sick.” https://www.cathycashspellman.com/a-native-american-perspective-on-the-body-of-mother-earth/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, 001 said: oddly , enough , it was the Peace and Love Generation who promised to protect the birds and the bees , and the Planet - — only to grow up and become money grubbing pigs - . Destroying and consuming everything in their path in pursuit of the American Way they once despised. The makers of Suburbia - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Pete H said: Define respected scientists. Isn't Fauci a respected scientist? Yes. 2 hours ago, Pete H said: If you continue to argue with stupid people over things that you don't have the absolute answers to, well then, you may have to have someone else, evaluate your intellect. Of course, but I don't think one has to put a good argument for something they have researched and believe in to have an "absolute" answer to. I still stand by what 97 percent of the climatologist believe in and if any are on the forum I hope they join in. 2 hours ago, Pete H said: This, was not any attack on you, just my thought for the day. Sure. I didn't take it as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, oldtimer said: Weather is not climatology. Of course we don't know everything, nor can we predict the future, but it has been measured that average global temperatures are increasing, and ice at the poles is melting. Beyond that? We will have to deal with it. Excellent comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, dtel said: But even in Arkansas this past winter they had records never recorded before. -9 in Conway, - 11 in Ozark. What happens in our time is a short blip in the big timeline. Fwiw, I think this could be a weather phenomenon instead of a global climate issue. 2 hours ago, oldtimer said: Weather is not climatology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 from my narrow point of view... our summer weather has returned to what we knew as normal. We are getting monsoon rains. again today speaking of which I opted to bring the kittens in the house. the rains brought up kinda sorta. Colorado River Toads. They're big and slow and have no need to hurry. They carry a nuke. Any animal that makes the mistake of ingesting their toxin/s will not do that again. It dries down to a very potent hallucinogen. The native peoples did not mess with it...here's your sign... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezin' Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 To lighten the mood around here.............. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted July 2, 2021 Moderators Share Posted July 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Zen Traveler said: Fwiw, I think this could be a weather phenomenon instead of a global climate issue. Very possible, I wasn't thinking it was anything to do with any overall climate change but extremely unusually cold or hot weather is most likley just a weather phenomenon not an overall global event. An event that changes climates world wide is El Nino and La nina, it is usuially pretty drastic changes, or can be and happens every few years. https://www.weather.gov/media/owlie/2018_ENSO.pdf 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 hours ago, oldtimer said: The only thing that is certain is uncertainty. I thought it was đeath and taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 the only constant is change.... --------------------------------------------------------- another remarkably normal AM. We're liking. Got 1/2 -3/4inch of rain yesterday. More predicted this afternoon.... hopefully, that forecast will continue through Aug. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted July 2, 2021 Moderators Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, grasshopper said: the only constant is change.... --------------------------------------------------------- another remarkably normal AM. We're liking. Got 1/2 -3/4inch of rain yesterday. More predicted this afternoon.... hopefully, that forecast will continue through Aug. If this were to happen long term things would be much greener, can you hear the sucking sound as the rain hits the dry ground ? . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 the first rain sizzled when it hit the ground. The second softened it up a little. Now it's ready to soak up some water. in a decent rainy season, yes, this place greens up. It dries up for a couple months, then there is a winter wet season. It has been exceptionally dry [even for a desert] for the past couple years., summer here is like the rest of the country with less humidity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezin' Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Proof............ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Severe thunderstorm warning just posted for Tucson OK... "Take shelter indoors" DUH!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 The little town of Lytton, BC, can’t catch a break. After 3 days of breaking all-time Canadian high temperature records (49.6C/121.3F was the highest one), a wildfire came in on Wednesday, June 30th, and now 90% of the town has been burned to the ground. There was an immediate evacuation order, so nearly everyone got away safely, except for two people. Shelter provisions were set up very quickly in some nearby towns, and now the RCMP and other agencies are trying to account for everyone. Hopefully, there will be no more fatalities. Even at this early stage, it’s been suggested that the town be rebuilt at another location. There have been about 2000 lightning strikes across southern BC in the last few days, and now there are 102 wildfires burning in the province. And this is just the start of wildfire season here. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 23 hours ago, jimjimbo said: Yeah, and guess what....we are still trying and fighting to protect the birds and the bees and the planet. Yes, us awful boomers. & I'm one of the ones after that gen. Didn't want that Indian Chief to cry, so sad for a manly man to shed a tear... or the cartoon bear reminding me that it was my job to prevent it. I did and I still do, probably won't stop ever. Lately? (20 years) I've refused to pick up the trash thrown out of cars where I used to live because I was only enabling them. And it's so much more, so how come my peers didn't teach their kids what we were taught? Can't say `cause it could be religious and political. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezin' Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, JohnJ said: & I'm one of the ones after that gen. Didn't want that Indian Chief to cry, so sad for a manly man to shed a tear... or the cartoon bear reminding me that it was my job to prevent it. I did and I still do, probably won't stop ever. Lately? (20 years) I've refused to pick up the trash thrown out of cars where I used to live because I was only enabling them. And it's so much more, so how come my peers didn't teach their kids what we were taught? Can't say `cause it could be religious and political. In a word................respect. For themselves and any and everything. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 And if more felt that. We'd live in a totally different place right now! Kind of like the golden rule? Thanks! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 that's what I like about this little burg. We don't wait or ask for govt help fixing things like trash accumulation at the lake ... left by out of towners... We just arrange a day and we all go pickin'. If a neighbors needs a hand, someone will be there. I paid for a commercial water hook up because the gal that needed it only had enough for a residential... I used to cut the grass at the park... simply because it needed done. Nobody asked or paid for it... I'm not blowing my own horn... this is what folk do around here. Govt doesn't mind us doing that. They insist we involve them in matters of law enforcement. Bad people used to just disappear. ............. Abandoned mines might have a "resident" or two... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 You guys are a hoot. Everyone seems to blame someone/Everyone else. I guess I'm fortunate to work with so many great families. Fwiw I've seen some bad ones in every generation. {Edit: Oh yeah, cheers} 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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