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13 minutes ago, billybob said:

Watchout, they will be looking to copy some of the new treatments.

they are hacking into these research labs night and day ------ as we are in a confinement period ,  they can hack into our systems with ease -

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Just now, RandyH said:

they are hacking into these research labs night and day ------ as we are in a confinement period ,  they can hack into our systems with ease -

Well that is unfortunate.

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8 hours ago, Marvel said:

 

And the has been no evidence given that that is true. To me he is just stoking the fire and making this more political.

General Keane is a 4 Star US General , he  is not a fool  ,  he was the Vice -Chief of Staff of the US Army -----if such a Man does not know what he is speaking about   then who does -  on another Hand , if a 4 Star Chinese General Spoke ,  everybody would listen-

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Flynn was a general too.  People are fallible.

Benedict Arnold was also a general.

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1 minute ago, oldtimer said:

Flynn was a general too.  People are fallible.

just don’t go bad mouthing General Electric. 

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1 hour ago, RandyH said:

let me state your words   and I quote ----a) worldwide pandemic attributed to the Chinese   b) the Chinese may develop the worlds first vaccine    c)-we'll buy their vaccine for their pandemic  d)- we'll continue buying all other pharma from them too  -------end result -----we 've paid Trillions of Dollars ---------to China ------oh yes , I forgot  e)-  we finance our debt with China   and f) why not raise a white flag -----


Yep, thems my words, and yours. And truthful in general. I’ll credit you with raising the white flag - 🏳️😷🦠

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Couldn't China have been a little less conspicuous if intentional?

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36 minutes ago, billybob said:

 intentional?

when you hide and wipe clean the evidence of the outbreak , when you jail Doctors who want to warn the world of a virus infection that has no known vaccine  , when you let a pandemic reach the world by Air-Sea-Ground , when you isolate millions of people in Wuhan  , but you do not lock down the traveling abroad  of your people to infect foreign countries , it cannot be  but an  intentional  act -

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58 minutes ago, richieb said:


Yep, thems my words,

much obliged Richie  , and I agree with you 100% -

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5 hours ago, RandyH said:

when you hide and wipe clean the evidence of the outbreak , when you jail Doctors who want to warn the world of a virus infection that has no known vaccine  , when you let a pandemic reach the world by Air-Sea-Ground , when you isolate millions of people in Wuhan  , but you do not lock down the traveling abroad  of your people to infect foreign countries , it cannot be  but an  intentional  act -

We’ll, when you say it like that ...

 

Yeah, it doesn’t look good. 

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10 hours ago, BigStewMan said:

Anyone know the answer to this question:  does a virus move on a surface or stay in the same place?  For instance, if the top-left corner of a card was infected, say the size of a dime -- would that spot grow to cover the entire card or would the contaminated part remain only the area that was initially infected?

A virus is non-living. It needs a particularized host to grow.

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There may be a different issue here.  The virus IIUC will not multipy and spread outside a host.  OTOH, the virus can live in little blobs of sneeze (micro sneeze?) which can be physically moved.  This is the basis of the need for hand washing and masks for physically coralling sneeze.

 

Is there information on how any virus survives on a nominal "dry" surface.  We see data that it survices on surfaces. But do they survive with no H20?.  It may be an empty question because in the real world that does not happen.

 

WMcD

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14 hours ago, RandyH said:

they are hacking into these research labs night and day ------ as we are in a confinement period ,  they can hack into our systems with ease -

 

You know this how? Have you worked on network security to know how it is done, what the protocols are to even begin to gain access?

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4 hours ago, Marvel said:

 

network security

YES -

 

-single handed hacking by China

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The US Says Chinese Hackers Went Too Far During the Covid-19 Crisis

https://www.wired.com/story/china-hackers-covid-19-spying-vaccine/

 

Coronavirus: US accuses China of hacking coronavirus research

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52656656

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An NHC healthcare center in our area just identified 24 of its elderly as positive with the corona virus. Plus one staff member.

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On 5/30/2020 at 2:52 PM, richieb said:


Oh goodie - worldwide pandemic attributed to the Chinese and now they may develop the worlds first vaccine. Imagine that? But why not? We may as well buy their vaccine for their pandemic, no? And let’s make this a package deal and continue buying all other pharma from them too. But hell, we’ll probably get a bulk discount. Yep, we’ve learned a lot from this exercise - . 

We need to get a sample and then copy it.  Turn about is fair play.

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