jcmusic Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I was just wondering how many here enjoy the sound quality produced by a 2 track R2R deck? Also the type of music you listen to on your deck? I have two Otari MTR 10's and absolutely love the sound quality of these machines!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondoro Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I do not have one but I would be interested. Is there good availability of material to play? What year does the music stop being available? ("Stop" as in, they quit making it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I believe some of the folks here have RTR's. I know I used to. I had an Akai GX-747 and I had a dbx 224 mated to it (not internal dbx). Never had any pre-recorded tapes, just made party tapes or copied LP's. Not sure if I'm weird or not, (no comments please!) but one thing I always enjoyed about the RTR was simply watching the two 10" reels turn. I found that to be relaxing. Gave it free of charge and all my tapes (about 25 reels I think) to a good friend of mine. I also drove 5 hours to hand deliver them to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesboy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I've got a Teac 3300 SX and a Pioneer RT-909 that's been in a repair shop in Illinois for over a year. Don't know when I'll see that one again. Same as Coytee I make compilation/party tapes. I know Tarheel still has a couple of reel to reels as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amped Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 No R2R experience whatsoever. Just putting this out there: https://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=results&saleid=515&banner_id=317 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast996 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Ampex,Crown,Studer and Sony....love them all. I listen to classical,opera,jazz,big band,country,and 1960's and 1970's rock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesboy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 21 minutes ago, Fast996 said: Ampex,Crown,Studer and Sony....love them all. I listen to classical,opera,jazz,big band,country,and 1960's and 1970's rock. Are any of those decks 15 ips? I've never listened to 15 ips. Wondering how the sound compares to 7 1/2 ips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck115 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Although I don't use it anymore, I still have the Akai GX-370D that I bought at the Navy Exchange in Subic Bay, PI during our 1972-73 participation in the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club. The picture is my setup in our VAW-115 Avionics Shop aboard the USS Midway (CVA-41) during Christmas 1972. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast996 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, bluesboy said: Are any of those decks 15 ips? I've never listened to 15 ips. Wondering how the sound compares to 7 1/2 ips. All my Ampex can play up to 30ips,all others can play 15 ips except the Sony 777's which are 7 1/2 the higher the speed the lower the S/N ratio...distortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I have an Akai Just now, Fast996 said: the higher the speed the lower the S/N ratio...distortion Actually, you get a higher S/N ratio... There are tradeoffs, though. I have an Akai, Sony and Teac. The Akai I got from a widow whose husband got it while on vacation in S.E.A. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT88 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, Buck115 said: Although I don't use it anymore, I still have the Akai GX-370D that I bought at the Navy Exchange in Subic Bay, PI during our 1972-73 participation in the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club. The picture is my setup in our VAW-115 Avionics Shop aboard the USS Midway (CVA-41) during Christmas 1972. The speaker in the photo looks like a Sansui SP2500. These speakers are still running in my parents house. My father bought his stereo in 1972 and enjoyed it every free minute until his death in 2003. My mother is still alive and when we visit her every two weeks we listen to music through these speakers, a Sansui QRX 6500 receiver and a Braun TG1000 real to real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck115 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, KT88 said: The speaker in the photo looks like a Sansui SP2500. These speakers are still running in my parents house. My father bought his stereo in 1972 and enjoyed it every free minute until his death in 2003. My mother is still alive and when we visit her every two weeks we listen to music through these speakers, a Sansui QRX 6500 receiver and a Braun TG1000 real to real. The speaker shown in the photo is the next step up SP3500. On that cruise I bought a pair of SP3500's (Front Channels), a pair of Sansui SF-2's (rear Channels), a Sansui 2-channel receiver (don't remember the model), a Sansui QS-800 rear channel amplifier, and a bunch of other electronics. In the late 1990's I gave the Sansui Speakers, the Sansui receiver, and the QS-800 to a Missionary couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathedral Guitar Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I have a 1/2" 2-track Denon DH 510. It is of course a mastering deck, but I should try it for general music playback sometime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmusic Posted July 3, 2021 Author Share Posted July 3, 2021 Well I am not familiar with all the decks named so you will have to tell me which ones are 2 track that do 15ips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 39 minutes ago, jcmusic said: Well I am not familiar with all the decks named so you will have to tell me which ones are 2 track that do 15ips? My 3 Teac's are all 1/4 track and the gas pedal is to the floor at 7 1/2 ips. The 3300 S is around 45 years old and was maintained by Kevin Kass who before retirement was a trouble shooter for Dokorder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Tarheel said: was a trouble shooter for Dokorder. That would have kept him busy. I had a Dokorder 4 track... for about two weeks. I returned it and got a Teac 3340s. I still have it, almost 50 yrs. later. The Dokorder looked way more professional, but it wasn't reliable. My Teac runs at 7.5/15 ips. The Akai will do 1 7/8, 3 1/2, 7 and 15.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 13 hours ago, Tarheel said: My 3 Teac's are all 1/4 track Yes; have a Teac X-1000R. Think it's only 7.5ips (???). GREAT looking machine, but only try it about once a year Someone offered me $1500 last year, but decided to keep it for the "looks." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathedral Guitar Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) My 1/2" 2-track Denon DH 510 does 15 ips. Any mastering deck will do 15 ips, but it is really expensive to keep copies of more than a few recordings on 1/2" tape -- or even 1/4" tape. You could run the CDs to 2-track, listen to them for awhile, and then transfer back from 2-track to digital, and you would get the beloved analog tape sound on your new digital copy. I would be tempted to go ahead an use EQ and compression before going back to digital, essentially remastering it for optimal sound playback on your Klipsch system. I have heard the exact same studio mix A/B from digital master to analog tape master, and the sound quality difference is pretty dramatic, with a clear preference for the 2-track tape master. Also, don't discount 7 1/2, as some decks might actually sound better at 7 1/2, especially for rock. 15 will be more hiFi in most cases, which is usually, but not always a good thing. Edited July 5, 2021 by Cathedral Guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted July 5, 2021 Moderators Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 10:17 AM, Pondoro said: I do not have one but I would be interested. Is there good availability of material to play? What year does the music stop being available? ("Stop" as in, they quit making it.) New material is being put out by the Tape Project and Acoustic Sounds (mentioned above). They typically run about $350 to $400 per lp (2 10" teels, 2 track, 15ips). There is a large market of vintage prerecorded R2R tapes, mostly 4 track at either 3.75 or 7.5ips. The prices range from $2 to in the hundreds, I would say the average is about $20 to $50 for the widely available good stuff. It used to be $10 a tape 20 years ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted July 6, 2021 Moderators Share Posted July 6, 2021 This is an example of a Tape Project Tape, I grabbed at random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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