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Heading out, be back in a few days, going back to Hope should have some pics next week. With an explanation which I can't say right now, it's a surprise for someone.

Morning guys..... 2nd cup done .....getting ready to......(you guessed it)..... roll out to the shop....... Another fun day I'm sure.......well hold up my wife just told me were going to my grandson's school this morning for a little end of school party.....that should be fun.... Yea Gary some more pic's would be great.....thanks... Check in later.... MKP :-)

Good HUMPDAY morning my friends.... Just wanted to let you know I have MORE photos from yesterdays visit to Hanover N.H. I will try to get a couple more out during my lunch today... Enjoy your morning / Day ...........Gary

Time for the road An evening in Reno is a good way to start the trip.

Dont be tempting me with "Flyin Arrays" iv been doing my homework on these critters, i do plan on going with these for the hanger, the MCMs im about to procure are just for the homestead, existing EAWs may get sold or go the the hanger with their matching brothers, remember i bought two sets of those also last year. Dam arrays are pricey lil critters and im talkin about each module. Break over, haircut, load truck. Reno tonight after traffic time sure sounds tempting.....

Lets see, we have a mystery. Party, music, gift, and Hope Arkansas. Christy getting a pair of speakers for her birthday?

That's a BIG church! I'll bet communion takes for ever.

Good looking room, and large.

Be safe

Thanks so much for the kind words EVERYONE ;0)) We are still here tuning the last rank of pipes, then that two hr. drive back to our shop, and then home finally ! Keeping with the cables topic, another for Mark, and this was taken from the organ loft high above the performance stage, one of the flying arrays with all self contained amps.

Break, water, Forum. Couple things left to do, and we may just hit Reno tonight. I was tellin the wife we will be swingin by Omaha to drop some Duggans, she says we dont go through there babe I say Mr Garmin says we do, she does like the garmin. Garmin rules.

There it is, darn it :0)

........well, lunch time and it's time to post some photos as promised (0; No Carl, it is not a church but the college performing arts center/concert hall..... Here was my 'office' from yesterday... Each one of these is a self contained 'speaker and amplifier' in one.. This little organ has nearly 3000 of them !!! .....and they are ALL hand made !......Here is the console that controls it all. This one was built in 1962 by Austin Organs of Hartford Ct. Still going strong (0;

Anyone have or know of any good, bad experiences with a VW Passat GLX wagon, or other Passat models. We are looking at a used V6 30 valve wagon atm. Opinions welcome of course... Thanks!

Just wanted to give an update. Looks like he has decided to keep it for now but said if he does decide to sell it, I will be the first in line. Oh well, it was worth pursuing.

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the help. I especially want to thank Michael Colter and John McAloon for great sales experiences. I was looking for one set of Heresys and I ended up with a pair of Heresy IIIs and a phenomenal pair of Forte IIs. I also received a pretty spectacular quick Klipsch education from Mr Colter in his shop. Now I just wonder what's next... Thanks Dtel's wife for pointing me in the right direction..

The Route: Hwy80 Sacramento to St Louis and any/all points inbetween, leaving 6/11. may leave sooner. Hwy80 St Louis to Sacramento and any/all points inbetween, leaving 6/15. We will p/u-Deliver a little north/south anywhere along this 2000 mile route. PM ASAP as Enclosed trailer size could be limited. Will NOT be handling your money/paperwork/BS, P/U / Delvery for known Forum Members. Your deal should be between other forum members, NO CRAIGS LIST p/u!!! I offer this free service to known forum members when the wife and i do speaker fetchin road trips. We reserve the right to simply say "Yes" or "NO" , so PM me before you do your deal make sure im good to go wuth it. Mark & Erin

I'll obviously give the nod to the Fortes but the Heresys are no slouch. I also haven't been able to give a lot of attention to the placement of the Heresys. I think the neighbors know I got new speakers though. If I could only make my garage as loud as Colters...

Thanks Carl... Here is the photo that was ment for that last post ;0) Which for some reason is not coming up correctly...... 3rd try coming up !

That is too cool Gary, thanks for those.

Good question, but no I don't think it was ever a quarry, at least not for mining minerals. I use to fish a number of quarries when I lived in Florida, and that was interesting stuff. Some of those old phosphate quarries get really deep. Anyway, the rocky terrain is like that for miles and miles and miles in all directions. From up high, you can see the foot hills of the Sierra Madres deep into Mexico. If you travel the lake far enough upstream to the north & west, where it becomes a river, and the Pecos and Rio Grande come together, there are some formidable shear cliffs, easily 300ft plus high cliffs. Wild goats and Audad sheep often travel along the cliff faces, and I just scratch my head wondering how they do it. Every once in while we find a dead one at the bottom of the cliff, or in the water, usually their young ones that havn't mastered the cliffs. There are also lots of areas with ancient artifacts, and because of this the Fed's took over the lake, and confiscated (reclaimed) some of the lands along the river. Seminole park is one of those areas. There are many caves with ancient paintings, 1000's of years old. Some have hundreds of rock chippings, arrowhead bits, and broken or uncompleted spear tips. At the mouth of one particular cave that's sits up 30 feet above the current river/lake water level, there's a huge mound formed from rock chippings. You can tell it was a location where the indigenous people made their tools/weapons etc. It would take a good week or so with a dredging machine to harvest all the chippings. There's easily a solid 10 to 20 tons worth that are exposed, and lord only knows how much below the water level. Back in 2009 when I first went back there, we were diving and finding some decent looking arrowheads, until a park ranger pulled up along side us and said the area was off limits for that kind of activity. We showed them our ill gotten booty, which admired, and then tossed it back over board. Most of the interesting caves, or at least the best ones, have hidden and not so hidden motion sensors embedded into the rock face and paths leading up to them. I think (?) they're there more to the drug smugglers than for looters. Lots of drug smuggling in certain areas, Mexico is just a 5 or 7min. swim at the narrower places. Some of the caves have old, old jail bars closing them off completely. In one of the caves that has these bars, there are supposedly petrified skeleton remains of indigenous people. I've traveled back to the bars, but can't see the remains. There's is an old warning sign about not causing damage to the cave or going beyond the bars. At the barred gate, there's a really cool old lock, it has a slide piece over the key hole and looks like it needs one of those old timey skeleton keys. There's one particularly interesting area where the old rail road tracks from the 1800's still exist. They run mostly along the hill tops, before at this one area they drop down low before turning into a wide path that leads into what is now flooded. The tracks corroded away long ago, and lead to a man made tunnel that's typically flooded to about 2/3 to 3/4 of the tunnel height. The tunnel makes for an excellent places to set catfish lines, because it's always dark (pitch black actually). We've never traveled the tunnel all the way through, because it eventually gets completely submerged. But we do travel a good 300 ft, or so inside. Far enough inside to where we feel not many people are willing to go, and mess with our catfish lines. When I first went in there it was the eeriest feeling in the world. The water is unusually cold, very cold, and gets rather deep, 15 to 20ft deep towards the back, and only about 7 to 9 feet at the mouth of the tunnel. When we set out lines we get in the water, but when we check them for fish, we generally do it from the boat, unless a catfish wraps the line up around something down below. That's when the fun really starts. The water is very clear in the tunnel, but you cant' see all the way to the bottom. We've pulled some big catfish out of there, more than a few that were too big to eat and so we let those go. They can be a pain in the asss to deal with when they get better than 50- 60lbs. We generally keep the 20lbs and smaller, and let the big mama's go to breed and multiply. Mostly catch flathead (aka Yellow cats) and channel cats. But during the colder months the big blue cats are more active, and those babies get big, really big. Trying Google'ing "Panther Cave Lake Amistad", it's one of the better known caves, and it accessible only by boat.

So...this became mine today...(both of them)

Yea, you and Bruce Jenner....

Almost forgot about this thread. Seems old school at this point. Plan to order a Middle Atlantic RCS this week unless anybody else has any ideas. Otherwise I guess my favorite rack at this point belongs to Taylor Swift. My... goodness...

The perforated back just makes it a bass reflex speaker, lol.

Well, they work from my laptop, but not from my phone....strange. Regardless....you guys are awesome!! Wow.

spinnnnin area

What kind of speakers are those!!!!??? Those are DIY. http://wardsweb.org/audio/Widgets/

Break during oil change. Chuggin down the water, tryin to program this dam Garmin.

I can just make it if I leave now and drive 79mph...

A friend just invited me to see the Stones play tonight in Atlanta at 6 PM. Considering it's a 12 hour drive I don't think I'll be able to make that in time.

We have had threads here where everyone tells what they do for a living, the range of different professions is about as wide as could be. But Gary you may have the most unusual of them all. Most people know little or nothing about pipe organs with most people never even hearing one, and you rebuild and work on them, that's different.

I'm sorry about the crappy cell phone pic…

That white German Shepherd is amazing looking. They're both beautiful. The speaks are not too bad either. (Smile)

the one in the middle is one of my early H-700's flanked by a set from 79 this one came as a single driver with no midrange - tweeter or crossover. the motorboard came with the mid and tweeter cutouts but with 1/4" cardboard covering them so i turned it into a 3 way to match my other H-700 with the K-1000 midrange horn

The tweet and SP 12B (if that's what it is) may be partial Klipsch guts, but the xover comprises the most rudimentary type of 2-way imaginable -- a high-pass filter that doesn't really divide the frequencies, but only keeps bass away from the tweeter. There's no coil to keep the highs from being wasted in the woofer. I wonder if you even have a Heresy cabinet, FWIW.

I paid $250 for them. Reading the responses, I now think I really didn't get a great deal like I thought. My plans were to buy all the same vintage tube gear and run them in a 2 channel setup in my office. I didn't pay much for them so I might just list them and buy some authentic 60's Klipsch speakers like I had originally intended. I was really hoping one of you Klipsch gurus was going to say I scored a prototype pair of Heresey's on the cheap. Haha! I will hook them up to my new Emotiva/Marantz gear tomorrow and listen to some Dave/Tim and develope some impressions. Sunday's could be spent worse.. At least I didn't shoot an 85 today like Tiger:) Actually, who am I kidding? I would be ecstatic if I shot an 85 at this point in my golf career.

Back in the day, Klipsch sold parts. The original Heresy and Cornwall had a K1000 horn. Later, the K700 horn was used. http://www.use.com/cXlK?p=2 .

" I love that cast bass driver and wonder what size it is" 12" EV SP12B, an early K22. .

I don't know really but it almost looks like someone put Klipsch parts in a different cabinet, DIY maby ? Unless someone replaced the rear board with that peg board looking junk, besides the mid range not there, that is what sticks out the most. Plus all that extra grill cloth on the inside and the lines drawn like they were trying to center the drivers. And look how the cloth is pulled a little on the top front, I say these things because I have never see any of that on factory speakers. They didn't even have a whole piece of pegboard junk to do the back, they pieced it. All guesses ? If nothing else if the cabinet dimensions are the same as a Heresy you could always add the midrange, crossover, plus add a real back board and have some nice speakers. It might be worth it depending on how much you paid ? You could always look up the going prices for your 4 drivers and compare to what you paid, if interested. Things like the extra, or a little pulled cloth doesn't bother me much, but no midrange or crossover, and that holey back is not good. imo

I am very sorry for this terrible loss. RIP. Eternal rest grant unto them, O Lord and let perpetual light shine upon them May they rest in peace, Amen

Well persistence might just pay off. I decided to make give him one last call. He and his wife are doing some remodeling and his wife began listing a few of his speakers to help offset the cost of the remodel. He seemed like a nice gentleman and said he thinks he's just in shock about her listing them. LOL. He says they don't have much use on them. He asked if he could give it some thought to make sure he wants to sell them and he will let me know. Again, if it works out, great. If not, no biggie. Will keep everyone posted.

Oh wow, I'm truly sorry to hear about your college suite-mate. It won't matter 10 minutes from now. There is no such thing as the "Deal of a Lifetime". Everytime I think I've discovered it, a better one pops up somewhere down the road. On top of that, "stuff" really doesn't matter. It's temporary, it breaks (been experiencing a lot of breakage lately), things get lost, stolen, misplaced etc. There are soooo many things that are much higher up the importance list than finding a great deal and enjoying this audio hobby....but it sure is fun though.

i want your speakers Larry

Welcome to the forum. Stop reading about bass and looking at others systems. Don't give into the darkside, lol. It can get really, really expensive. Enjoy your system for awhile and see how deep in the water you are willing to go. OTOH, get the money back while you can get a full refund, lol. The correct answer is how big is the room, do I want things to shake, what can wife live with, the HT is in the basement, how loud do I like things and how much is my budget.

Yep, what they said!!!

Sell your soul to the dark lord like everybody else did. Or just chill out and stop second guessing yourself.

It's been a while since I've posted here. I've been experimenting with the Texas Instruments TPA3116 and TPA3118 Class D amplifiers and ST Micro TDA7297 Class AB amplifiers, and a few hundred dollars of parts and amplifier modules, I've come to the conclusion that the TDA7297 is a worthy chip amp champ in terms of sound quality, energy efficiency and value. This little amp driven with my modified Astron RS-12A regulated linear power supply (14VDC) can generate as much as 8 watts within reasonable distortion levels. This is plenty of power to drive most efficient Klipsch speakers. I can drive my Forte II's to ear-splitting levels with plenty of headroom with this amp. As discussed earlier in this thread, there are many possibilities for powering these miniature amps. I've found that my Astron regulated linear power supply provides clean power (i.e., voltage and current) that allows this amp to create a huge soundstage (deep, wide and tall), articulate bass, warm mids and extended highs an a focused image with excellent separation between performers. As a reference, my system consists of the following: Restored and modified Kenwood Trio PC-400U belt-idler wheel drive turntable (a la Thorens TD-124) Talisman Alchemist IIB high output MC cartridge re-tipped by Needle Clinic Sony ES DVP-NS999ES DVD/SACD/CD player Audio Research PH5 JFET/6922 tube phono stage preamplifier Audio Research LS7 tube line stage preamplifier Restored Dynakit Stereo 35 6BQ5/EL84 push-pull tube amplifier modified with Enhanced Fixed Bias (EFB) Klipsch Forte II speakers modified with Bob Crites Titanium tweeter diaphragms, capacitor replacement and internal wiring kit, and Pomona 3770 Copper binding posts Recently, I modified a TDA7297 amplifier module purchased from eBay seller "homemart.usa." This amp cost under $7 with shipping from China. Delivery to the US takes about 7-10 days. The stock unit actually sounds pretty good, but significant improvements can be realized with a minimal investment of money and DIY time. Removed yellow 100nF ceramic cap Replaced the polarity protection diode with a sold core Copper wire Replaced the stock 2,200uF/25V electrolytic cap with a 470uF/35V Nichicon KZ Muse electrolytic cap for the power supply/DC decoupling cap Replaced the two (2) stock .22uF Mylar film caps with 1.0uF/250V Radio Shack Mylar film caps (http://www.radioshack.com/1-0uf-250v-10-metal-film-capacitor/2721055.html#.VTplAWd0zDc) Replaced the three (3) stock terminal blocks with Weidmuller terminal blocks Replaced stock 50k volume pot with 50k 21-step SMD resistor stepped attenuator, and used Mundorf Silver-Gold wire as hook-up wire I installed this in a Context Engineering split-body Aluminum enclosure that had a previous TDA7297 build in it. To my ears, this amp sounds really good. It may not have the full tube bloom of my Dynakit tube amp, but it has a warmth and presence that could easily fool someone into thinking they are listening to a tube amplifier. Better yet, this amp is 80+ percent efficient, so it would make an excellent warm weather amplifier. Probably the most significant modification is increasing the input capacitance from .22uF to 1.0uF per each channel. This lowers the high pass input filter corner frequency to below 20Hz, so that the bass response and definition are significantly improved. The Radio Shack film caps are some of the best kept secrets in DIY audio. Unfortunately, these caps are only available in 1.0uF/250V.

What a nice way to start my day. I'll have two lumps of sugar in coffee to honor this delightful photo. Thanks, tnr.

Several come to mind. I wouldn't just stick in a corner. Perhaps...