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Guys, user seinbeans is a troll from other forums I belong to. Please don't encourage the troll.

To lighten the mood around here..............

You may be getting some kind of sound, along with your very thick bumping beats with your system, but how much does it sound like the band or singer performing live in front of you? That should be the goal, to be able to hear at home what you'd hear at a concert or festival. That takes a system that's smooth and coordinated, from the lowest bass to the highest treble, with no dips or peaks anywhere. It's not a sound producer, it's a sound reproducer, so that's exactly what it should do. In the same way, a TV should show the picture clearly, with every colour as saturated and as bright or as dim as it would look if you were there standing beside the camera, with no unnatural colours, unless that's what the director wanted. It would be great if every speaker could do this, but you have to spend a lot of money to get that, and I mean over $30,000 in most cases. For the rest of us, a subwoofer is almost always needed to get the really deep bass, that last couple of octaves. Another factor at play with most Klipsch Heritage speakers (the ones designed by Paul Klipsch himself) is that most of them are completely horn-loaded. This means that they have a horn in front of each driver, a small one for the tweeter, a bigger one for the squawker (the mid-range driver), and a much bigger one for the woofer. Each horn is designed and tuned to work with its driver. That's where the compromises begin. High-pitched sound has very short wavelengths, sometimes less than an inch long. Bass sounds, though, have very long wavelengths, up to 40 feet long. The horn has to be a certain fraction of the wavelength in its length. That's fine for the tweeter and squawker, but for really deep bass the horn would have to be 10 or 20 feet long, which wouldn't fit in most homes. Working with a shorter bass horn that will fit in most homes means the bass won't go all that deep. That's where the subwoofer comes in. It's specialized to produce deep bass. Why bother with horns, then? Well, they make a speaker far more efficient, so the speaker cone barely moves, even when playing really loud. This means that the distortion is really low, and the music sounds much more clear, more like you're actually in front of the stage. Also, you don't need a big expensive monster amp to play your music really loud. The money saved there may be enough to pay for a good sub, but it's even better to have two, because a direct-firing sub is not as efficient as a horn-loaded speaker, and its distortion is higher. If you have two subs, the sound is more even around the room, so no big bass dips or peaks, which are weird, not cool. As well, with two subs, each cone moves half as far, cutting the distortion in half. Size-wise, each of my speakers is the size of a fridge, so the subwoofers look tiny beside them. That's a picture of the Left one in the thumbnail at left, getting its tweeter dusted by the Hi-Fi Fairy. So there you go. Great horn-loaded speakers, combined with a good sub or two, are the best way to get clean clear natural-sounding music, like you were at the concert. Hope this is helpful.

That's a beautiful part of the state. My older son just sent me this with the comment 'my daily commute'. He's over in North Carolina.

Proof............

No, question of the year maybe? Not sure if language barrier, but taking it at face value, in conjunction with his previous post, and giving benefit of the doubt, my assumption is a misunderstanding about size of the box with DR bass vs. size of the box with horn loaded bass. Some people like chest thumping bass, which is artificial, not really true sound reproduction, or as close thereto as possible, in the way that PWK intended. It's what kind of music you are used to, what you grew up on so to speak. @mark1101 or JC can explain it better than me. JC grew up on funk, and sound systems that play it. Roy has indicated that are ears/brains calibrate to what we are used to. PWK would say "I going to go recalibrate my ears" which was a Klipschism for he was going to a live performance of some accoustical concert work. He would do that to get to one of his core values - accurate sound reproduction. JC likes smack yo up side da head, in yo face bass. He could care less what the distortion is from his DR vs. his horn loaded bass systems because Cool, Parliment, Funkadelic and 100 others sounds better to him through a proper DR bass system. You have to be moving some serious air to make him happy. If you grew up, like my nieces did, on Bass Nektar concerts - EDM, a nightclub in Denver with the most powerful Funktion One Systen in the US at the time, you are going to be calibrated to that, and you are not going to get that at home with any of these speakers, because the bass at those EDM concerts is processed (gated and limited) to where is sounds (more like feels) it is below 20 but isn't really. They can also make it sound twice as loud as it really is to avoid being fined at outdoor events like at Red Rocks for example. Spoke to a bass player who had performed/recorded Marshall stacks who bought new Cornwalls, and he said it took a little while for them to grow on him, now he wouldn't trade them for anything after listening to Jaco, Paul Chambers, Jack Bruce, Stanley, Larry Graham etc. sound so good through the same set of speakers. It's the same story, he had never heard something before, or he could hear this guys fingers doing that, or "I never knew Ox was playing that line on . . . . I have been to many, many live performances of concert works (improperly referred to as "classical") and operas and not once, not a single time, have I heard "chest thumping bass." Normally all of you guys ask what people listen to (not sure if I saw that in here or not), and based (no pun) on that I have seen people respond that they are familiar with the music and it's a good fit, or not. What are these folks' point of reference? Strictly jazz and they don't have no stinkin' bass? Blues? Urban? EDM? Opera? Organ Music? Without knowing their point of reference regarding bass, it just seems to me it is really difficult to help them with where they are going. Some people just need more barn, and nothing is going to change that.

It's like réanimation... Get the heart beating again with dsotm

One of the first albums after a test record was Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon The 1977 version - https://www.discogs.com/Pink-Floyd-The-Dark-Side-Of-The-Moon/release/4139588

There have been several of the RB-75 damaged in shipping. The drivers are too heavy / hang out too far for the structural integrity of the horns. The shipper needs to remove the magnets and ship them separately.

I was referring to the "upcoming Cornwall V" there isn't one, and nobody needs to be waiting for one in terms of a purchase decision. The K45 was selected, and spec-ed for the speakers it is in to provide for the best bass. They are not interchangeable. I want better bass so I will put in a K45 in my CW or Khorn and I will have better bass? Hopefully no one is even remotely considering that, and I'm not clear now on what the post means or is intended. I have heard the CW IV, own the II, III, and the Pro CW, it doesn't need anything in my opinion. I would also venture to say anyone with nothing to do who ventured to try putting a K45 in there for grins would be extremely disappointed, the whole thing is engineered together - front tractrix porting, new balancing network (XO), and the other drivers. It would sound like every other home brew box with swapped drivers - a loud, untuned, box spewing noise that the builder/swapper thinks is the new end all. From a manufacturing standpoint it is always better if you can use the same woofer in as many products as possible, if it was a good fit it would be in there, it isn't, so my guess is it's not a good fit. One thing I am sure of, 100%, Roy isn't reading any of this and going "man, why didn't I think of that, a K-45." If you change the woofer "you detune the design." @mark1101 You can ask @jwc about this, he has messed around this probably more than anyone with his DBB. He dunked a CW in water to figure out the exact displacement as I recall. he concluded that the woofer in the CW at the time was the perfect match for the displacement, changing it was walking backwards. Knowing that, he started changing the displacement and came up with the DBB - always searching for the "slap yo mama, in yo face bass" his music requires. I'm sure that Mark and JC, who have messed around with this a lot, and know what they are doing would tell a CW owner, whether it be a IV or III (and they have both heard the IV, extensively) would say the last thing on earth you want to do is to put a K-45 in your new Cornwalls and that what is in their currently is the best for that design, loading and displacement.

I had a McIntosh c28 preamp that had up to about 20 dB bass boost via the tone controls AND two Bass Trim controls that has about 2.5 dB more at 100 Hz, and 5 dB at 20 Hz. It worked great in optimizing bass in many recordings, with many speakers, including Klipsch, JBL. ADC, etc. It was a marvelous preamp in all ways except one; the right phono channel kept going out, was repaired several times, then sold. Even better was an very expensive Luxman integrated amp, L580 (I think) that had a choice of THREE turn-over frequencies for each tone control, AND a Low Boost switch (4 dB) for either 150 Hz or 70 Hz. I tended to use Low Boost 70 Hz and bass tone control + 2 at the lowest turnover (150 Hz) on my Klipschorns. The bass was incredibly clean, warm, and impactive. On Fanfare for the Common Man, my desk would go out of square, and windows would rattle at the other end of the house. Windows in the music room had to have wedges (shims) put into them so they wouldn't rattle. More recently, in another house, we converted to combo music listening room and home theater, and settled for a Marantz preamp processor, and several NAD power amps. Its tone controls are limited to +/- 6 dB, but, fortunately it has Audyssey, which measures the room from the main listening position, and provides up to 20 dB cut and 9 dB boost. This works well most of the time, and I can further EQ for idiosyncratic recordings with the tone controls at +/- 6 dB. Sometimes that is not enough, but when it is, it's great!

If anyone is interested in easy but not expensive ways to clean ones record's then this equipment tip may come in useful On most occasions I actually use an Artline whiteboard eraser The modern ones have a beautiful pad that is perfect for record cleaning and is also reversible Top side On the underside there are 3 sections / divisions Just apply the record cleaner fluid of your choice down the centre segment and let the device do its thing Afterwards you can dry with a soft microfibre cloth

Tonight's EC match is Belgium vs Italy, so I thought I would help the Belgian team preparing for the game MeloManiac-style. To my distress, I must admit that I have very little Italy-related vinyl records. I have this classical album juxtaposing three composition called Romeo and Juliet, and then I have a number of Tino Rossi albums I inherited from my mum, which I never listen to, and of which Wikipedia says it he's French. I think Wiki is wrong... Anyhow, I want to say hi to the Italians, and also the great Italian community in Belgium. I've enjoyed the games of the Italians up to now, I like their style of playing. I'm sure it will be a great game tonight, and no matter who wins, I'll be having a Belgian beer during the game! Good luck to both teams! This is perhaps the most famous Italo-Belgian singer we have. He's still alive and kicking (pun intended). His worldwide hit, Marina, dates back to 1959. He's loved and admired both in the Dutch, French and Italian community in Belgium: the great Rocco Granata! Recently, a biographical movie was made about Rocco:

Wake up that princess! This is an Amp that was 0n my shortlist to buy used, but then I stumbled upon the Leben.

Today it’s raining and we are on a 4 day Covid19 lockdown So what does an old audiophile do Well most would play music but I decided to re commission a 40 year old amp This amp was in production from 1978 to 1980 and is the baby of the lineup but in the all new format from previous amps that had timber sides ect I present the Sansui AU117 ( I also have matching tuner the TU217) It’s actually the Sleeping Beauty to the uninitiated Power output: 15 watts per channel into 8Ω (stereo) ( Plenty of watts for high efficiency Klipsch speakers ) Frequency response: 10Hz to 40kHz Total harmonic distortion: 0.17% Damping factor: 50 Input sensitivity: 2.5mV (MM), 150mV (line) Signal to noise ratio: 76dB (MM), 94dB (line) Channel separation: 65dB (MM), 68dB (line) Output: 150mV (line) Speaker load impedance: 8Ω (minimum) Semiconductors: 25 x transistors, 7 x diodes, 1 x zener diode, 1 x LED Dimensions: 430 x 110 x 340mm Weight: 6.4kg Year: 1978

Slipped back into 1975 for just a lil bit of Rock n Roll earlier. Lennon's 6th studio album amid all kinds of lawsuits yet hit #6 here in the US. Crave a bit of old 50's and 60's rock n roll just have a lil throw down and let it alllll out! Great album! Welllllll, @Full Range I'm not gonna be a spoiler but if ANYONE in here likes Styx you're crazy if you don't pick this one up. Yup, it's Styx all the way thru BUT that's ALL I'm gonna say! Carry on it's only about 10PM here and I'm just getting started! hahaha Poor fella's!

Grand Funk fans.... https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=PFURiYuC7ts&list=RDAMVMPFURiYuC7ts

As noted above A fantastic cover and so so musically tight - very talented collaborators Who grew up with this song by Iron Butterfly ( I have the original LP)

This is a cover of a favourite Deep Purple song Don’t say this often - but it’s as good as the original ( what do you think ) With many collaborators they do a few excellent covers of other bands equally well - search them out and post your favourite

Had to! Off to jam night! Play nice!

Mounts were threaded metal inserts. Since the insert were set in from inside the cabinets, I’m thinking “factory.” Paint looks like brushed on latex. I appreciate the comments in this thread regarding price, scarcity, and value—as well as observations about bargains. In other places, people have engaged in price shaming, which I find unhelpful and disheartening. Anytime someone buys used gear there is a context of time, market, price, availability, and logistics that all have a bearing on whether a purchase is a relatively good decision—all assuming you are in a position to buy. I feel for people who only get feedback from people who bring up a “better deal” from a different seller at a different place and time. I get that people have opinions about overpayment and also pride in a great find / great deal. But I have little patience for people who thrive on being a killjoy. Glad that there was none of that here. I take the post above by Woofers & Tweeters about a $200 purchase not as shaming, but as a useful data point because it’s referencing similar speakers at a similar point in time. (Location would give the data a bit more context, but it’s not the location who set the price, but the seller.). Similarly, the $500 price point for these speakers is good data, too. It adds the dimension of a storefront that permits returns which is another factor in the price. FWIW, I did walk away with (and not from) these speakers for $500 out the door. I would have preferred perfect cabinets—and maybe even originals over version II—but these sound great and they are not embarrassing to look at as is. If I ever see a similar pair for $200, I will still jump on them, knowing that price to be a bargain. While I wait for that, I’ll be giving these some exercise, grateful that the OP popped these out for the community to see and thankful that I was in a position to look them over and to bring them home.

The RB-75 is a considerably better speaker than the RB-81, IMO. They have a larger compression driver, actual wood veneer, were made in Hope, Arkansas, and designed to keep up with the original RF-7s. Otoh, they are hard to find. If you would be using them for HT, paired with an RC-7 is hard to beat bang-for-buck as a Front Soundstage . In fact, Steve Phillips, a Klipsch employee said when they are dialed in with a capable sub they perform as well as the RF-7--Fwiw, I tried that last scenario but still prefer RF-7s up front. YMMV.

And yet, if you pay attention to the real world in everyday life, you will notice something very profound: Bass is everywhere, but you don't notice it unless you specifically listen for it. Real-world bass is just "there". It doesn't overwhelm you or punch you in the gut. It just exists, effortlessly and unobtrusively.

A pair of HSU ULS-15 II is only about 1600.00 including delivery. That’s what I use to augment the CW IV bass. Won’t break the bank. Shakey

the first rain sizzled when it hit the ground. The second softened it up a little. Now it's ready to soak up some water. in a decent rainy season, yes, this place greens up. It dries up for a couple months, then there is a winter wet season. It has been exceptionally dry [even for a desert] for the past couple years., summer here is like the rest of the country with less humidity

I heard a rumor that because Klipsch speakers put out so much bass that Congress passed a law that says Klipsch much send all of their extra bass to a "Bass pool" available to other manufacturers for their use. JJK

If this were to happen long term things would be much greener, can you hear the sucking sound as the rain hits the dry ground ? .

Very possible, I wasn't thinking it was anything to do with any overall climate change but extremely unusually cold or hot weather is most likley just a weather phenomenon not an overall global event. An event that changes climates world wide is El Nino and La nina, it is usuially pretty drastic changes, or can be and happens every few years. https://www.weather.gov/media/owlie/2018_ENSO.pdf

Still spinning some old favourite LP titles This time it’s Genesis with a classic LP I have 2 different pressings of this LP - The 1972 UK textured gatefold and the US reissue Artist - Genesis Title - Foxtrot Playing the US version today - https://www.discogs.com/Genesis-Foxtrot/release/3110056

True that. I believe he is running some 415/4 LF bass bins right now plus no doubt a sub somewhere. I have followed this thread with interest as I was very impressed with the CW4 I heard.

That's a tough act (post) to follow, I may hide mine now.

How can you tell with Nicholas Cage?

A Martin Scorsese film written by Paul Schrader, the team that brought you Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, and others.

Ian Tyson is still performing... And this reminded me that Rusty Young from Poco died of a heart attack this past April.

Yes that red album is a good listen. Saw them after that one at Florida field along with Youngbloods James Cotton 10 Wheel Drive, Great Speckled Bird, etc... good day. Ian and Sylvia...

Holiday Weekend. Be Prepared. Lawyers, Guns and Money (2007 Remaster) - YouTube

from my narrow point of view... our summer weather has returned to what we knew as normal. We are getting monsoon rains. again today speaking of which I opted to bring the kittens in the house. the rains brought up kinda sorta. Colorado River Toads. They're big and slow and have no need to hurry. They carry a nuke. Any animal that makes the mistake of ingesting their toxin/s will not do that again. It dries down to a very potent hallucinogen. The native peoples did not mess with it...here's your sign...

They were a LOT better than most thought. That's a great LP too!

That's extreme!

******* AWESOME....I grew up with Iron Butterfly 🍻

You gotta admit, we humans wanting an easier living and going after the almighty dollar have made things a lot worse on our planet.

If you can’t see a video - Look up on YouTube - Sina drums and a song name

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What makes Ringo a great drummer

Yamaha Slimline, I repeat it is necessary to raise them during the hot period that you are living at the moment to increase the convection and cool the amp 😉

Flying too close...to the sun...moon?