CECAA850 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 RIP Ali. I'm in the same camp as USNRET however. I see no need for a lock, comments are civil and skirting politics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrown0678 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Muff respect to MR Mohammed Ali RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxr dad Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 A great fighter? Absolutely. A great American role model? Not even close. The "King" Elvis Presley was called upon to serve his country and he rose to the occasion. That is what every citizen should do if called upon, protect and defend their Country, no matter how famous, rich, poor or whatever. Should be no debate there. Just my 2 pennies. However, my condolences to his family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 RIP Ali, a great man and a type of ambassador for the USA. You are not born with a commitment to serve this nation. I don't remember reading a commitment to serve the country in the constitution from our for fathers. Wars are highly political and a great number are not to protect our freedom. I was in the service and technically still am has a commissioned officer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 A great fighter? Absolutely. A great American role model? Not even close. The "King" Elvis Presley was called upon to serve his country and he rose to the occasion. So you are saying that Elvis was a great American role model? Get real.....Spent two very protected years in the Army....in Germany. Pursued and moved a 14 year old girl into Graceland (Priscilla). Died of a drug overdose. Yep, great role model. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 A great fighter? Absolutely. A great American role model? Not even close. The "King" Elvis Presley was called upon to serve his country and he rose to the occasion. So you are saying that Elvis was a great American role model? Get real.....Spent two very protected years in the Army....in Germany. Pursued and moved a 14 year old girl into Graceland (Priscilla). Died of a drug overdose. Yep, great role model. Elvis, imho, was a great role model in his younger years. Ali, like Louis Armstrong, was a great role model his entire life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) Since no man is or was perfect, then it makes no sense cherry picking certain things. It has always been my preference to look at how much good someone has contributed to the world and not single out a few negative things. This philosophy is based on the assumption that most people are good and should be judge on their entire life time contributions. Edited June 4, 2016 by derrickdj1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 RIP to the greatest fighter to have ever lived Mohammad Ali was certainly a top tier boxer, a true boxer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I don't want to change the subject, but….in their prime….Ali or Tyson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) Think about Ali's defeat of George Foreman in the great rumble in the jungle fight… There's the answer to your question. Watch the terrific film "When We Were Kings" Edited June 4, 2016 by jimjimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Yep, great role model. "Aw c'mon. Where's mah pills?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxr dad Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Since no man is or was perfect, then it makes no sense cherry picking certain things. It has always been my preference to look at how much good someone has contributed to the world and not single out a few negative things. This philosophy is based on the assumption that most people are good and should be judge on their entire life time contributions. I agree, I apologize coming off as a hard arse. I didn't mean to compare them, although it seems like I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I don't want to change the subject, but….in their prime….Ali or Tyson? Completely different styles. Ali the finesse boxer with some power and Tyson the powerful puncher with deceiving hand speed. Maybe could have been a good match. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Malcolm X or MLK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 The world lost two important Black men this year. One was short and one was tall, but both were giants. We won't see their like again, and we're the poorer for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsear Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Many celebrities have been called or enlisted for duty and those who did serve were often assigned duty more akin to public relations and not combat roles. The exceptions are those like Jimmy Stewart who sought serious duty with very serious perils. I wonder what Ali would've been assigned had he calmly met his responsibility? I appreciate that Ali did not join ranks with the more radical elements and made his points as a solo protester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Muff respect to MR Mohammed Ali RIP Muff respect? I'm sure he got plenty of that :o Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wolfbane Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 Many celebrities have been called or enlisted for duty and those who did serve were often assigned duty more akin to public relations and not combat roles. The exceptions are those like Jimmy Stewart who sought serious duty with very serious perils. I wonder what Ali would've been assigned had he calmly met his responsibility? I appreciate that Ali did not join ranks with the more radical elements and made his points as a solo protester. The Army planned on having him tour US bases across the world putting on boxing demonstrations akin to what they did with Joe Louis during the Second World War. Ali was not prepared to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I don't want to change the subject, but….in their prime….Ali or Tyson? Completely different styles. Ali the finesse boxer with some power and Tyson the powerful puncher with deceiving hand speed. Maybe could have been a good match. Bill Maybe? I think that would've been the ultimate heavyweight fight. I would go with Tyson, in his prime he was devastating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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