When Did We Become So Wimpy On The Forum?

[dtel's wife]

@runandwin it's great to see you on the forum again!!!  You're right we women need to stick together. Hope to see you on here more often!

 

@jwc make sure she sees this!!!  

[richieb]

KP600 stacks make for very effective mosquito repellent - I believe it turns them to dust! Poof, they're gone -- like magic!

[derrickdj1]

Is this considered crosstalk or cross leg, what ever, lol. Now back to my PC music selections.

[garyrc]

On 9/9/2016 at 4:47 PM, jwc said:

 ... What about "updating" not "upgrading"? 

OK so no sell upgrades on forum.  But if unlistenable buying vintage Heritage...and Klipsch doesn't have an "update" package...can we discuss "updates" by third party vendors to keep Heritage alive?  W/O calling Heresy!!!!!

In looking at houses for sale, or amplifiers, or microphones, etc., "upgrading" is preferable to "updating," because "updating" is sometimes "downgrading."  The old stuff is sometimes better.  The Klipschorn, with almost all of the same components it has had for a long time, reportedly was preferred to the RF7 II and the Palladium by the Hope audience at the gathering.  Heritage, in general, beats many newly designed speakers by a variety of manufacturers.  Of course, I would consider candidates for true upgrades, but I'd like to hear them first, or at least have the designer/vendor have top measuring equipment and an anechoic chamber, perhaps with a revolving door.  Apparently Chris and Roy have encountered some so called "upgrades," or perhaps merely "updates," that weren't all that "up," grade-wise.

[CECAA850]

13 hours ago, jimjimbo said:

I had some, it didn't work....ask Carl.

 

 

It's true.  Jim is seriously f'd up.

[Paducah Home Theater]

18 hours ago, dtel's wife said:

All the time we've spent at Rodney's we have never seen mosquitos. We were there at least ten weeks in total last year. 

 

That's probably because he commercially sprays half the farm to make sure everybody is comfortable.  No telling what that costs.  

[Deang]

So the place is toxic as hell. :-)

[CECAA850]

8 minutes ago, Deang said:

So the place is toxic as hell. :-)

Look at what it did to Thad and Jim.  Me, I'm totally unaffected.

[oldtimer]

It's hard to pollute what's already waste.

[twk123]

23 minutes ago, Deang said:

So the place is toxic as hell. :-)

Its all about the new GMO mosquitoes now so you can pick between Toxic Avenger and Resident Evil.

[Deang]

Toxic Avenger sounds interesting. Does it work with Vodka. 

[oldtimer]

I guess you haven't seen the movies.  A Troma production, only the bad movie cognoscenti would know, of which you are not.  But as Chad would say, it doesn't mean I still don't love you.

[Deang]

Lmao!

[DrWho]

On 9/10/2016 at 9:49 AM, dwilawyer said:

Maybe one way to deal with it is to have someone with technical knowledge (which mine is limited) to be a dedicated moderator of Tech/Mods.  Someone who can call out bullshit.

I spend a lot of time with the Chicago AES chapter where we bring in a bunch of engineering types to talk about their research, passions, whatever...

 

One of the things I've noticed is that there is not consensus about what is / is not BS.

 

It's hard to talk about these things abstractly because these end up being very specific topics. For example, I can show you a ceramic capacitor that causes distortion in one circuit, but does not cause distortion in another. Someone who deals with the other circuit might subscribe to the idea that a cap is a cap and it doesn't matter - therefor snake oil. However, someone that deals with the first circuit where capacitor voltage linearity matters will subscribe to the idea that "better caps" are required....and they'll even have data backing it up...

 

So which ideology do we subscribe to? Do fancy caps make a difference? Some will say yes, some will say no. One of the difficulties with the person saying "no" is that there will always be some finite influence from the non-linear capacitor. The magnitude of this non-linearity can be readily calculated too. However, that little knowledge erodes away at the audiophile pursuit of finding every last drop of performance.

 

The point isn't to get into a debate about capacitors, but to point out how one perspective of a situation results in an ideology that is not true across the board - and now the audio community suffers from those over limited perspectives. In the meantime, it also breaks down what is otherwise a very fun part of the hobby. Questioning ideas and setting up opportunities to listen is something that brings a lot of people together....and results in bringing friends to these sessions as well where they get exposed to some great sounding stuff.

 

I'm actually kinda surprised Klipsch doesn't try to capitalize on the tweaker culture...or personal customization if you want to talk about the younger generations. Making things personal is a HUGE part of the hobby. This idea that there is only one way to do anything comes off very confrontational to the next generation. Why doesn't Klipsch make xovers with multiple slopes and make them easy to swap out? I could just see all the shootouts of people comparing which ones they like and comparing them. There are absolutely subjective tradeoffs when choosing xover slopes and different styles of music might benefit from one versus another....

 

Okay, I've rambled too long.....Klipsch can definitely do whatever they want (and they will). And as much as I'd love to see the real snake oil get ousted entirely, there's a part of me that still wants some of it. It's just part of the magic and if nothing else it affects the emotions of the person doing listening, and if my emotions are different, then I am definitely going to hear things differently. Why is that bias such a bad thing?

[oldtimer]

It's all about compromise.

[BigStewMan]

Welcome my son

welcome to the machine

what did you dream?

it’s alright, we told you what to dream.

 

[oldtimer]

You dreamed of a big star

He played a mean guitar

He always ate in the steak bar

He loved to drive in his Jaguar

[T2K]

 

Gazing at people, some hand in hand
Just what I'm going through they can't understand
Some try to tell me, thoughts they cannot defend
Just what you want to be, you will be in the end

[DizRotus]

On September 10, 2016 at 10:05 PM, oldtimer said:

When does Michigan play a real team?

 

Probably Oct. 1 when they play the Badgers.  While Michigan is clearly much improved, they had much room for improvement.  The answer to the, "What have you done lately?"question regarding OSU and MSU is, "Not much."  Two victories in the last 20 meetings.   Notice how often the Buckeyes get 42 against the Wolverines.

 

Michigan has one of the best traditions in college football, but bragging about beating high schools is tiresome. 

October 10, 1891

Ann Arbor High School

Ann Arbor Fairgrounds • Ann Arbor, MI

W 62–0

 

101	2004	Columbus	Michigan (#7)	21	Ohio State	37
102	2005	Ann Arbor	Michigan (#17)	21	Ohio State (#9)	25
103	2006	Columbus	Michigan (#2)	39	Ohio State (#1)	42
104	2007	Ann Arbor	Michigan (#23)	3	Ohio State (#7)	14
105	2008	Columbus	Michigan	7	Ohio State (#10)	42
106	2009	Ann Arbor	Michigan	10	Ohio State (#9)	21
107	2010[1]	Columbus	Michigan	7	Ohio State (#12)	37
108	2011	Ann Arbor	Michigan (#15)	40	Ohio State	34
109	2012	Columbus	Michigan (#20)	21	Ohio State (#4)	26
110	2013	Ann Arbor	Michigan	41	Ohio State (#3)	42
111	2014	Columbus	Michigan	28	Ohio State (#6)	42
112	2015	Ann Arbor	Michigan (#12)	13	Ohio State (#8)	42
113	2016	Columbus

 

01	2008	Ann Arbor	Michigan State	35–21
102	2009	East Lansing	Michigan State	26–20OT
103	2010	Ann Arbor	#17 Michigan State	34–17
104	2011	East Lansing	#23 Michigan State	28–14
105	2012	Ann Arbor	#23 Michigan	12–10
106	2013	East Lansing	#22 Michigan State	29–6
107	2014	East Lansing	#8 Michigan State	35–11
108	2015	Ann Arbor	#7 Michigan State	27–23
109	2016	East Lansing

[jimjimbo]

This doesn't get tiresome though

All-time series Michigan leads, 68–35–5