joessportster Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Got this last week and the grace F-9 Cart today Sounding fine Not really better than the VPI Though with a much cheaper cartridge it is certainly as good. Finally a 124 in the house and making music 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 VPI destroys a 124. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, oldtimer said: VPI destroys a 124. Opinions Vary . My 124 has undergone a total restoration with some very nicely upgraded parts. Playing 2 LP (that I know very well) through left me wanting NOTHING, I never felt like I was missing anything sound wise. I could and will listen for hours this weekend to some other well known LP to get a better grip on the overall sound. I am very happy with the trade from VPI Classic 1 to Thorens 124 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 14 hours ago, joessportster said: Opinions Vary . My 124 has undergone a total restoration with some very nicely upgraded parts. Playing 2 LP (that I know very well) through left me wanting NOTHING, I never felt like I was missing anything sound wise. I could and will listen for hours this weekend to some other well known LP to get a better grip on the overall sound. I am very happy with the trade from VPI Classic 1 to Thorens 124 Ah, OK...I was thinking of the Scout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburnwilly Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I'll be at the Tail of the Dragon Nov. 4th to 8th bring the Challenger on down 😋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnich Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Leica is selling refurbished M9 s. This one has. 600 shutter activations and a new sensor. I already owned the zeiss 50mm 1.5. Great combo btw! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 13 hours ago, sunburnwilly said: I'll be at the Tail of the Dragon Nov. 4th to 8th bring the Challenger on down 😋 * owned an HCat and have ridden the Dragon several times. The two are not a good mix — Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 46 minutes ago, richieb said: * owned an HCat and have ridden the Dragon several times. The two are not a good mix — You sold it???? Is that why you changed avatars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 You sold it???? Is that why you changed avatars?Scat , HC, Demon, Redeye all look cool but to be honest they ain’t got nothing on handling on a foreign automobile . They are fun to drive and look cool that’s about it . My personal take Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, A1UC said: Scat , HC, Demon, Redeye all look cool but to be honest they ain’t got nothing on handling on a foreign automobile . They are fun to drive and look cool that’s about it . My personal take Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk They're made for straight line performance. Most sports cars will take them in the twisty bits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburnwilly Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 15 hours ago, richieb said: * owned an HCat and have ridden the Dragon several times. The two are not a good mix — OK , Cherohalla Skyway then 😋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnich Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/9/2019 at 5:35 PM, joessportster said: Opinions Vary . My 124 has undergone a total restoration with some very nicely upgraded parts. Playing 2 LP (that I know very well) through left me wanting NOTHING, I never felt like I was missing anything sound wise. I could and will listen for hours this weekend to some other well known LP to get a better grip on the overall sound. I am very happy with the trade from VPI Classic 1 to Thorens 124 Would not say that a VPI scout or any VPI other than the top of line rim drive model would smoke a 124. Having owned a number of turntables including a 124 as well as a few VPI's a couple of clearaudio's as well as a LinnLP12 - I would for the most part go with an idler drive versus a belt drive. I could never get the 124 to perform like I knew it could. It sounded incredible but I couldnt conquer the rumble. I know that there are folks who refurbish these and do in fact conquer the rumble. I have ended up with a lenco based idler drive turntable ( ptp audio) that has in my estimation smoked all of the other turntables I have owned. In the great history of turntables, it is unfortunate that pretty much all of the efforts over the years have been focused on building better belt drive models - because they are cheaper and less complicated to build. It would have been interesting if companies had spent more effort on improving idler drive turntables. Thankfully the DIY community did so with new plinth materials and improved bearing assemblies and improved motor isolation techniques. Having the motor drive the platter rather then a rubber belt pulling the platter improves pretty much everything in regards to vinyl playback. The resulting improvement on cartridge drag delivers a better overall presentation. This improvement is most noticeable with instruments that have a percussive component. Think acoustic piano, violins, acoustic guitar etc. A violin section sounds like a section of individual instruments rather a smear. It really is remarkable. It has basically the same effect that adding a record clamp does on belt drive turntables - only more so. People rave about the sound of 45 rpm audiophile LP's. The reason for the improved sound with a 45rpm LP is the limiting effect the 45 rpms have on cartridge drag. With an idler drive there is no need for a record clamp and all Lps have the drive and PRAT of a 45rpm audiophile edition. Just my opinion and your mileage may vary. But unlike a lot of BS in audio there is a physical reason for the improvement that made sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnich Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 8:24 AM, CECAA850 said: They're made for straight line performance. Most sports cars will take them in the twisty bits. Certainly this is the case. My only experience with a Hell Cat was at Bondurants performance driving school. Drove them on the track and have to say that having all that horsepower requires a different approach than other cars I have tracked. Lots of fun for sure. I track my boxster a fair amount and nothing I have owned takes to the turns like that car. Its like the car is turning around your hips. Amazing. As I get closer to retirement I am looking into buying a Miata just for the track. If I feel more industrious I will consider building up a 2002 as a track car. I have worked on so many 2002's that I am very comfortable with pretty much everything - excluding the suspension! Fun part will be shopping for the right car to set up/ Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkwa1959 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I know this has nothing to do with Klipsch speakers, but today I was checking out local yard sales and I bought a Cub Cadet Professional walk behind mower 54" cut with 18.5 motor with only 30 hours on it.It is like new and the only downside is mowing season is almost over and I will have to wait until next spring to start to use it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Certainly this is the case. My only experience with a Hell Cat was at Bondurants performance driving school. Drove them on the track and have to say that having all that horsepower requires a different approach than other cars I have tracked. Lots of fun for sure. I track my boxster a fair amount and nothing I have owned takes to the turns like that car. Its like the car is turning around your hips. Amazing. As I get closer to retirement I am looking into buying a Miata just for the track. If I feel more industrious I will consider building up a 2002 as a track car. I have worked on so many 2002's that I am very comfortable with pretty much everything - excluding the suspension! Fun part will be shopping for the right car to set up/ Josh Friend just bought a Honda NSX handles awesome Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
314carpenter Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Had a hard time choosing. Went with the ones with the patent from Monoprice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Russian-Spy- Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Picked up la scalas on tuesday! I have yet to listen due to lack of crossovers, but i should be able to snag a pair within the next month or so. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 11:02 AM, CECAA850 said: You sold it???? Is that why you changed avatars? Asking the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I 'got' my name showing up on a preview for the Netflix series of Fastest Car. I was surfing Netflix last night and passed by the show, the car I tune was the cover preview. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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