Covid19 redux

[Bosco-d-gama]

Here’s what might be the bigger problem with covid19..........   the long term effects. This story covers people termed as ‘long haulers’, people whose covid19 symptoms linger?  Medicine is unsure what’s going on in these cases but reportedly it leaves victims fairly unwell for ‘months’. And it is on-going and who knows for how long. Could the covid19 dead be just the tip of the iceberg with many chronically ill survivors left to be cared for - for a long, long time?

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-symptoms-long-haulers/?ftag=CNM-00-10aac3a

[JJkizak]

One of the news casts showed a lung removed from a 22 year old female who received a double lung transplant because of the covid 19 virus. It was pretty awful with deep scabs and no plain skin visible. In fact it was worse than that. Even Hollywood could not duplicate it.

JJK

[oldtimer]

1 hour ago, JJkizak said:

One of the news casts showed a lung removed from a 22 year old female who received a double lung transplant because of the covid 19 virus. It was pretty awful with deep scabs and no plain skin visible. In fact it was worse than that. Even Hollywood could not duplicate it.

JJK

You don't get it.  It's all about control, very few need new lungs.  The cost to my business is not worth their lives....

It's not a federal issue either, just because it is infecting citizens all across the country, there are plenty of cop outs and scape goats to deny deflect and divide.

Oh.  I forgot the incarceration part.  We have all been imprisoned,  have we?  Maybe that part is just rtard hyperbole.

[Travis In Austin]

4 hours ago, Marvel said:

 

It was not. Would have liked to get both, but we've both been careful. Our company did have some positive cases in one of our group homes, but everyone is doing ok. Not sure if we could get a free antibody test where we live.

Glad you are ok. It did not look to be the most comfortable test to have, but if it was easy and painless maybe more will get tested knowing that.

[OO1]

1 hour ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

Here’s what might be the bigger problem with covid19..........   the long term effects. This story covers people termed as ‘long haulers’, people whose covid19 symptoms linger?  Medicine is unsure what’s going on in these cases but reportedly it leaves victims fairly unwell for ‘months’. And it is on-going and who knows for how long. Could the covid19 dead be just the tip of the iceberg with many chronically ill survivors left to be cared for - for a long, long time?

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-symptoms-long-haulers/?ftag=CNM-00-10aac3a

 poorer people cannot afford basic healthcare  , with covid 19 , they will be in an even worse condition -

[Marvel]

5 hours ago, Deang said:

I'm in Ohio, and because of the shortage of swabs and reagents, you can't get a diagnostic test unless you have symptoms, along with an order from your GP. 

 

I'm not sure when it changed in Georgia, but each county has at least one site to do the nasal swab. It goes to a lab and they call you in three to five days. We went on a Saturday morning and there was no line, no waiting. Filled out a short form and didn't have to get out of the car. They pushed the swab into my brain and we were good to go (just kidding... mostly kidding...) It didn't hurt, just felt kind of strange.

[Bosco-d-gama]

1 hour ago, RandyH 000 said:

 poorer people cannot afford basic healthcare  , with covid 19 , they will be in an even worse condition -

As I understand it the lower economic tiers of the country face multiple covid19 problems. They’re most likely to be living in high density homes and housing. Over all their level of health is reduced and they tend to have more comorbidities in the form of addictions. They are less educated about diseases and tend to ‘push’ through what they consider minor ailments allowing infections to become worse and exposing others to the infections. Affording healthcare is a bit of controversy as often their medical debts are through state systems and hospitals simply cannot collect from people with nothing. These folks are known for rolling into emergency rooms for basic care as they cannot retain physicians. But they do delay care. They eat cheap food with poor nutritional value. And they tend to abuse their health with alcohol/drugs, etc. They provide covid19 the best infection opportunity and it shows in the covid19 statistics.

[Bosco-d-gama]

Here’s another article on the ‘new’ drugs being formulated specifically for covid19. Several look real promising and could become covid19’ ‘game’ changers. Hopefully it won’t take too long to get them available. BTW this is another reason why the world needs the fastest reporting of new contagions. The sooner medical science knows about a new bug, the sooner they can start working to defeat it. So China’s initial delays with covid19 information echoes here as well.
 

https://bgr.com/2020/06/15/coronavirus-treatment-monoclonal-antibody-cure-eli-lilly-vs-vaccine/

[Marvel]

30 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

As I understand it the lower economic tiers of the country face multiple covid19 problems. They’re most likely to be living in high density homes and housing. Over all their level of health is reduced and they tend to have more comorbidities in the form of addictions. They are less educated about diseases and tend to ‘push’ through what they consider minor ailments allowing infections to become worse and exposing others to the infections. Affording healthcare is a bit of controversy as often their medical debts are through state systems and hospitals simply cannot collect from people with nothing. These folks are known for rolling into emergency rooms for basic care as they cannot retain physicians. But they do delay care. They eat cheap food with poor nutritional value. And they tend to abuse their health with alcohol/drugs, etc. They provide covid19 the best infection opportunity and it shows in the covid19 statistics.

 

Latino/Hispanic/African-american  communities all fall into this group or at least a variation of it. We have emplyees who are in the $10 per hour range. They do have a reasonable amount of their health insurance paid by the company, but many work extra shifts/hours just to put food on the table, and our cost of living here is really rather low.

[Bosco-d-gama]

29 minutes ago, Marvel said:

 

Latino/Hispanic/African-american  communities all fall into this group or at least a variation of it. We have emplyees who are in the $10 per hour range. They do have a reasonable amount of their health insurance paid by the company, but many work extra shifts/hours just to put food on the table, and our cost of living here is really rather low.

Poverty does not discriminate. No need to insert racial controversy here. Being poor has its milieu that predisposes many circumstances. It is interesting that immigrants clamor to come to America where their own industry can gain them results. We have our economic tiers but they need not become points of personal stagnation. 

[OO1]

2 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

the covid19 statistics.

  USA covid 19  fatalities 118293  -06-15-2020

[Bosco-d-gama]

4 minutes ago, RandyH 000 said:

 just as a joke , 7 months after the outbreak China shows 4534 deaths  with 1,4+ billion population , Canada with less than 40 million  population shows 8200 deaths , may I say more  -

Yes - it is a lot more difficult to study anything when confounding variables abound. And really it isn’t a joke, not to poke at you personally..........   imagine how much different this all would’ve been IF ALL parties were honest, timely and concerted from the very outset. Anyway we have what we have and still, to this day we cannot get complete honesty from key players. Look at Russia’s numbers if ya wanna laugh.

[oldtimer]

All the parties.  It's a great laugh.

[jimjimbo]

34 minutes ago, RandyH 000 said:

 just as a joke , 7 months after the outbreak China shows 4534 deaths  with 1,4+ billion population , Canada with less than 40 million  population shows 8200 deaths , may I say more  -

“As a joke”? WTF are you thinking?  Go away.

[sputnik]

1 hour ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

Poverty does not discriminate. No need to insert racial controversy here. Being poor has its milieu that predisposes many circumstances. It is interesting that immigrants clamor to come to America where their own industry can gain them results. We have our economic tiers but they need not become points of personal stagnation. 

Maybe you’ve just led a sheltered life.

 

[Mallette]

Careful, guys. 178 pages now. Some gray areas but OK so far. Just don't cross the line. Question is not how other countries are doing but how we are doing...which is pretty badly. Texas and Arkansas opening up and Arkansas shooting upwards like a rocket. Texas not doing so well either. Both show the hoax starting to spread after a downturn within a week of the phased openings. These are continuing even though the curves have resumed with a passion. One of my friends is in a hoax ICU with this hoax virus right now. Just wear the mask and don't spread the hoax. I REALLY do not want to die from a hoax. 

Dave

[OO1]

 

FDA revokes emergency use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19

https://www.cnet.com/news/fda-revokes-emergency-use-of-hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-patients/

[OO1]

1 hour ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

Yes - it is a lot more difficult to study anything when confounding variables

 I second that -

[pzannucci]

6 hours ago, Mallette said:

Careful, guys. 178 pages now. Some gray areas but OK so far. Just don't cross the line. Question is not how other countries are doing but how we are doing...which is pretty badly. Texas and Arkansas opening up and Arkansas shooting upwards like a rocket. Texas not doing so well either. Both show the hoax starting to spread after a downturn within a week of the phased openings. These are continuing even though the curves have resumed with a passion. One of my friends is in a hoax ICU with this hoax virus right now. Just wear the mask and don't spread the hoax. I REALLY do not want to die from a hoax. 

Dave

Testing has also skyrocketed so we probably need to be careful and wait on the actual numbers that get in trouble with it (not that those numbers are very helpful but..).

 

On the positive side, it looks like we are well into the "learning phase" for treatment.  Cases continue to go up but death rate continues to go down.  Either we are learning something or the virus is losing it's virility.  One could wish.

[JJkizak]

 

JJK