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The top with some natural light gives a better idea of the real color. Still the sun light on the left lightens the color and with less light on the right, darkens it. The red tint in the middle is a reflection off the wall.

my little "Black Betty" Hot Rod. '23 Model T, supercharged 355 Matt ♪ ♫ ♪

Not the best picture but it does show the grain. They are not this red. My phone camera reacts to the lights in here.

I am preparing and looking forward to the local record fair on Saturday May find some diamonds in the rough and a few records on my short list

Audiophiles are Audiophiles! We are Klipschophiles! Who cares about those people that tend to spend all their money on speakers with small and inefficient drivers with restricted dynamic range? who can impose his metrology to people to measure which sound is better? sound should be admired by the listener so it's a subjective matter. To me a La Scala sounds better that those mega dollar speakers out there

Zip, Zero, Nadda If I don't See it with my own eyes, touch with my own hands, hear it with my own ears and test it on my own bench I take it with a grain of salt....

There sure is a lot of great people here and I don't "live" here near as much as I used to, because I too have heavily modded K's that are frowned upon by so many. I rarely even participate when I find threads with people modding drivers or horns. I have to thank many of the people here that have steered me towards different components or custom built networks, etc. etc. by some of the entities that get punished for their efforts of wanting more or pushing the envelope. These guys don't have to follow a financial model of marketing and selling to the masses, they simply try and extract every little bit of PWK's designs. Its a fine line to walk and discuss actually improving many areas of our speakers with different components and what not, but to deny that there are improvements or consider it to be blasphemy to be made on they models or designs is shortcoming. We are all here at the Klipsch forum for a reason and we all hold PWK designs very dear and in many cases his designs are the very reason that so many carry the passion for Klipsch speakers their entire life. I will never own anything other than a Klipsch speaker and I think the man himself would be very proud to see people taking his designs and constantly try to improve on them because I believe this is what he did his entire life.

Morning gang Dentist this morning. Everytime i get a dental visit these days, i take them a Box of See's. Time to rot their teeth Pub flyby Grey Goose gets that dental taste out just fine. Rain in june Drizzle @ 1/10 of an inch, but fear not, our state will put in for disaster funding. Ward has some damm fine looking speakers there

Im only 20,000 miles away from you so if you are feeling up to it you will make it by next months record fair but yes I will report back Have been in touch with some vendors and given them my short list So it's probably a certainty that some more Genesis will be coming home with me

I was just referring to pics posted. I would not leave out Richieb, we both have late model Scat Pack cars in our stable and I am very interested in his procharger ideas. I also agree with M_Klipsch that 465 to 485hp is a nice number for a daily driver and can still get you into trouble. This is an incredible time for performance cars and I highly recommend to everyone, don't miss out on this era if you can.

I have La Scalas in a 10x12 right now and they sound fantastic. It can work.

True, and I do understand that concern. That's the risk we take when we buy things, even on the forums though. There's no penalty really if something doesn't go the way we want it to during transit or prior unless PayPal steps in. It's a luck of the draw thing. My XDA could have been DOA, so could my Fusion (both of them). The Oppo I bought could be in the same boat. We take a risk on second hand - and I'd like to think that for the most part, people are not up to stingyness. But you are correct, caution should always be used. OP - your room is either similar to or just a shy bit smaller than mine. Virtually any good amp/preproamp configuration should do you solid. If cost is a concern and you really don't want to go used - I'd either purchase an AVR like I mentioned through A4L, or wait and see if Emotiva posts some more goodies on their own eBay page: jadedesigns. You can also poke around the forums here for an amp or receiver for sale, or see if some of the other forums have anything (Emotiva's Lounge for example). Patience is your friend in this hobby, and regardless of who is saying what, we all agree on that.

@Max2 well said. No matter how it's phrased, there are those who feel any suggestion that "improvements" or "upgrades" can be made to PWK's designs is blasphemy. IMO, PWK was an excellent engineer who designed excellent products that could be manufactured and sold at a profit I suspect he would acknowledge that improvements could be made, especially given new designs and materials available today, and especially if there were no budget constraints. That said, all "upgrades" are not equal. Many here perceived the implications of some modifiers as arrogance to even suggest that they knew more than PWK, or Roy Delgado. IMO, they don't know more than Klipsch engineers, but they have the luxury of making changes that would not be commercially viable. Hobbyists have a right to modify their speakers. If they perceive an improvement, good for them. They should not for an instant suggest or believe that they know more than PWK or Roy Delgado. It seems that Greg Roberts caused people to infer that he was implying knowledge superior to PWK and Roy. If he was, he's mistaken. IMO, he has taken PWK's designs and applied exceptional woodworking skills and a cost no object approach to components to produce gorgeous speakers that Klipsch could never -- would never -- produce and sell for a profit. I have no doubt that Volti products sound as good as they look, at least to their customers. I also have no doubt that Roy Delgado has forgotten more about speaker design than Greg Roberts will ever know. If Klipsch were in a position to produce such boutique speakers, IMO, they would design, test and build speakers better than Volti. The reality is they address different markets. Go ahead and choose Volti, just don't suggest that Greg Roberts knows more than PWK or Roy; he doesn't.

Actually, the LaScala II holds a Class A rating with Stereophile -- not an easy thing to pull off.

I have just finished reading this thread, and most of it is exactly why I don't come here much anymore!!! Too much BS about what someone else is doing, who cares??? If you don't like something keep it to yourself unless some ask you directly about, why just foam at the mouth; BECAUSE YOU CAN.. Not a very good reason imo!!!

I have this old gal in the garage in case I win the lottery . My souvenir of AZ when I lived there from 88 to 90 . 66 Charger , almost stock 67 440 with the one year #915 closed chamber heads .

I find if you can get two small R-12sw subs with small stands, the RP-160Ms can sit on top of them nicely. They can support a much larger room than yours if you were worried about future changes.

Oh man Luther. Seriously drool worthy.

The bookshelvesnwill do just fine in a room that size. I'd put the extra money towards some super cool stands.

Good evening Full Range.. I just checked your time, and it is coming up on 8pm... Of couse, here, I just woke up and it is 5.55am. and about to turn on the local morning news and get a little something for breakfast, another work day begins.. Enjoy your evening and I will check in again..... Join us for another fun weekend in RTM won't you ? Good night sir....

My first car was 1965 mustang with a 3 speed and a sickly 6 cylinder. Great at 16 but it needed help. i sold my 1968 mustang when I moved several years ago. Simple coupe but had all the body work done with a great paint job and crate 302. Fun car. just bought this about 2 weeks ago. 911 carrera cabriolet. It's a fun car with the top down although that will be a bit limited for the next few months here in the desert. I hit 112 today before I had to leave the highway.

in the dead wax side b. New music is not style it is quality.. Daryl Hall. sacred songs

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Today I'm visiting Europe via music To start off its a little Jazz from France Artist - Maxim Saury Title - Jazz From France Then onto Amsterdam for some prog Artist - Focus Title - Hamburger Concerto

Pre ordered me a pair of forte 3's in cali black walnut today. Pretty excited about them.

Forte and Chorus of either series is an excellent option, i have had my Chorus II's in just about every size room over the years and always outstanding performance for the size. If you are looking for something new I'm sure the new Forte coming out soon will have similar performance.

Welcome unclefred. Frist, what type of room will the speakers go in and what are you music preferences. Loud, not ear bleeding, rock vs classical, etc. Any plan on certain gear like tube amps vs SS, phone vs digital, etc.

So far we have a Ford and a Chevrolet. Lets shake it up with some diversity. 1968 Skylark Gran Sport 1970 Riviera 455 .@ 030 = 462 C.I. TA Performance Stage 1SE aluminum heads TA Performance single plane intake Holley 850 double pumper Mickey Thompson equal length headers with full 3" mandrel exhaust and flowmasters Muncie M20 4 speed 3.42 Posi 12 bolt 235/60-15 Mickey Thompson ET Street Drag Radials I bought this car out of Newton NC in 1996 It was solid but well used.

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I have already seen them selling used for well under the asking prices on Ebay and the like. I personally suggest saving up a few more months and getting something of quality instead of squeezing under a point that might leave you wanting more.

I too feel Greg Roberts would probably agree with most, if not all, of what I posted. Another thing to consider when criticizing Volti, Shinall, Speakerlab and the like, is that enthusiasts, who might be prejudiced against Klipsch and/or horns, are exposed to horn speakers they might like. Audiophools -- snobs -- will never concede that Klipsch, or any horn-loaded speakers, sound better than their mega-dollar speakers.

Pfffft. we don't need no stinkin manuals. Most of the time we even use all the parts when we go back together.

Well a very wise man once told me... Opinions are like arm pits. Everyone has one and they all stink! Unless they're my opinions

I need to be blunt on this one. The OP stated the K-Horns sounded great when he listened to them at the seller's place. He then brings them home and the bass is lacking. In attempt to solve this, he gets new mid-drivers, new tweeters, and a tube amp. The problem persists. The problem is clearly room interactions or the geometry of the placement. In spite of this, folks continue to suggest swapping the electronics. I am afraid the collective thinking has become very muddled.

People in general....no one specific' its human nature. I have dealt with the same shitty *** treatment from many around here for 17 years.... sure Greg said some stupid shite around here years ago....folks need to get over it. We all say stupid shite now and again (especially me). Greg makes some flat out awesome horn speakers. If I could afford them I'd be jumping to buy a pair...

That picture looks like a topographical map in 3D. I love it.

Correct.

Josh', Good for you.....much of the uproar in my opinion is flat out jealousy. Greg had the vision to see an opertunity to do something he enjoys while making a few bucks and others recent him for doing so. I say good for him for having the balls. He really is not vying for the same customers as Klipsch for the most part. Most of his customer base would put there nose way up in the air at anything Klipsch! Face it in the general audiphile world Klipsch is not all that well thought of I'm surprised you don't own the Vittora speakers! Greg's stuff really does sound great.

I'm not totally convinced they would have gotter by San Antonio if Leonard didn't get injured. I'm certain they would have won at least a couple games.

Time for a vintage fridge thread!

OK, here are the standard questions.....(and probably more to follow) 1. What kind of room are you working with? Dimensions, ceiling height, rugs, furniture? 2. Type of music you listen to, and level you listen 3. Your other components. Amps, preamps, source, turntable? 4. Vinyl, CD, streaming, etc? 5. Your budget Any other info. Photos of the room.....

Nah.

Comb filtering?

Looks museum worthy.

Nobody in their right mind is going to put a 6-8 foot tall speaker in a small room. Reflections can be easily treated as they should have been in the first place. Driver diameter does not mean much, it can easily be turned down. I call Bullshit on just about the whole article. As long as you can get a proper blending of all the drivers in a triangular seating position in relation to the loudspeakers i see no negatives beyond this general rule.

Reading the above, it is fairly clear that this is an issue of room acoustics and geometry. Please stop spending your money to change the electronics or components on the K-Horns. Some of us would be in a better position to advise if we had some specifics about what the problems are. If at all possible do you have a friend with a setup to use REW or some of the other acoustic measurement systems. This is not a quick measure and does require some time and effort, however it provides valuable and specific information that would eliminate the guesswork. Without some measurements, you will probably just get a bunch advice about "beeswax capacitors" and the "need for tube equipment" (not that you won't get that advice anyway). Good luck, -Tom

The above mentioned stepson has a good friend that finalizes the final tune parameters at Procharger, just down the road from me in suburban KC. I have spoken with Erik numerous times on a Procharger install for my car and although they do not perform installs at PC the "right" people can be made available. He said a 392 Challenger will safely make 600-620 at the wheels, which is right at Hellcat rear wheel power. And more if I care to invest in stoughter parts, which I do not. But alas, I'm basically listening to the Procharger disguised as a pair of Jubilees. And really the cars pretty damn quick as it is so I'm probably smart in leaving well enough alone.

The DC resistance of the K33 is 3.2 ohms, the inductor in the crossover raises this value to about 3.7 ohms, if yours measures much different than this you have a problem with either your meter or your speakers. On original Cornwalls the ring terminals connecting the crossover with the input terminal strip can be a source of problems. The tinsel leads on the woofer may be oxidized and in need of replacement. The real issue people want an answer to is: Do I hook it to my 4 ohm tap, or the 8 ohm tap? The minmum AC impedance is about 5.5 ohms so it won't likely hurt anything no matter which one you hook it to. Try both taps. Sometimes the bass sounds better on the 4 ohm tap. Sometimes the mids and highs sound better on the 8 ohm tap. Leave the speaker on the one that sounds the best.