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I think I’ve told my story before, but here goes anyway. I had a friend who’s dad died and left him some money. Not a lot of money, but when you’re 20, it doesn’t take much to seem like a lot. He went right down to Flip’s Stereo in St. Louis and ordered a set of Klipschorns. I had never heard of them. It seemed like it took forever for them to arrive, but one day he invited me over to hear them. He played Tricycle by Flim and the BB’s. I know that because it just knocked my head off. I remember that moment in time like it was earlier today. The album has a little tricycle on the cover and it stuck in my head. Anyway, I realized at that moment that I had been lied to my entire life. These speakers were DIFFERENT. I never forgot. Couldn’t afford them, but never forgot. About a year later, a female friend (now my wife) and I went to an outdoor party given by the same friend. The music sounded fantastic, and I couldn’t identify the speaker model and didn’t ask. They had a V-shaped front and I never forgot that. 30 years later, I finally found a used set of Klipschorns near me, a negotiable price, and had the money to do something about it. There was one weird requirement, though. The couple that had them didn’t want anyone visiting, for fear of their own safety (I know you’re thinking St. Louis, but it isn’t that bad here) so they wanted references. The woman mentioned that she retired from a local sheriff’s office, and so I started naming law enforcement friends. She knew the second guy I mentioned, who is the local town Marshall and a guy I’ve known since I was a teenager. She said she’d call him. I got a call a day or two later and they gave me the address and invited me over. When I arrived they told me they had checked me out and I thought they were just kidding. They were in great shape, original owners, etc. and we worked out a fair price. It took me three trips, but I got them home. They are stellar. I finally got my own pair of Klipschorns! A while later, I was in a local supermarket, turned the corner and there was the Marshall. We talked for a bit and he said, “hey, how are the speakers?” Huh? Turns out they really did call him. He said it was the strangest call he’d ever taken, but vouched for me. Maybe you’ve followed my “La Scala Splits Project” thread, but if you haven’t, I found a pair of beat up cabinets, converted them to splits, and built a THTLP sub to go with them. They are incredible. I finally got my La Scalas too! I put GIANT Klipsch logos on the sides so that when someone at a party hears them and has their world changed, they will KNOW the brand and dream of owning a pair like I did. I didn’t want the same thing happening to someone else, I wanted them to have no doubt that it is Klipsch that changes lives.

I thought there might be a special section of this forum for new member introductions but a search revealed that the most likely place would be in this section. I'm sure I could lurk here indefinitely gleaning mass quantities of information about Klipsch speakers that I couldn't find anywhere else but I thought I should introduce myself anyway. I've already found quite a lot of information which has helped me figure out how to proceed with some cosmetic repair as well as performance updates to the new/used Heresy I speakers I recently purchased. Attached is a "before" photo of one of these speakers. They'll never be beauty contest winners but I think with some new grill cloth and a bit of cleaning and treatment of the finish they won't look embarrassing. In terms of sound the plan is to update and replace the crossover components too. I'm not a newcomer to Klipsch speakers however. My high school band director in the early 70s introduced us to Klipsch with a pair of corner horns in the band hall. I've been hooked ever since then. He also had taught band in Hope, Arkansas and used to recount stories of working at the plant during the summers and having discussion with Paul Klipsch about music and speaker design. I had always been intrigued by these stories - not all of them about audio necessarily. Both had a great sense of humor. He had a two track reel to reel tape deck (made by Bell) in a custom made wooden carrying box that PWK used to carry with him in his airplane when traveling to do audio demonstrations. He passed that tape deck onto me when I was in college and then sometime later - late 80s or 90s - I made a trip through Hope, stopped at the museum, and donated the machine to the museum. Of particular note about this tape deck was that the "Bell" in Bell Electronics had an extra "e" penciled in to the name making it "Belle". I"m not sure if the museum actually put it on display since I haven't been back since then to find out. The first Klipsch speakers I ever purchased were a set of KG4 that I bought new. It was all I could afford at the time. A few years later and back when I was in a house that had room for bigger speakers I ended up buying a pair of La Scalas (maybe two pair on two different occasions if I remember correctly), selling them, then buying two different pairs of Klipschorns (but not at the same time). The first pair were mismatched from different years and different finishes but the second pair (after I sold those) were matched and wonderful! A series of moves made it impossible to keep them however. After that the KG4s kept me in Klipsch sound until buying these Heresy speakers just a few weeks ago. I've always been intrigued with the design and have a set of technical papers that my former high school band director gave me. One of the things that I believe makes horn loaded speakers, and especially Klipsch because they do it well, so appealing to me is the reduction of intermodulation distortion caused by limiting the amount of diaphragm movement through coupling to a horn. It's strange but I rarely see this mentioned in defense of the design. Efficiency, sensitivity, and controlled directivity is mentioned but the lower distortion, especially from high volume and high level transients, is not talked about so much. I credit that aspect with being one of the reasons that I believe they reproduce brass music (I am a brass player, trombone specifically, as if you couldn't guess from my user name) so well. To me the brass section of orchestras doesn't sound realistic through most other speakers. The brass section my come through loud on other speakers but there's no power behind it. Not only did my band director influence me in my preference for Klipsch speakers, he also contributed to my decision to become a band and orchestra director 40 years ago - and now, after 35+ years of teaching, a professional trombonist. So, here's my latest project. The little Heresies are just about the perfect size for my small office/practice room. Looking forward to hearing about everyone's interest and experience with their Klipsch speakers and learning more about these great speakers! Ken

Welcome But the Bayer Tempo takes all the fun out of John J's flame thrower idea, but probably a little safer.

I highly recommend Bayer Tempo 1% dust for wasps. You can get it on Amazon, along with a duster for less than $40. Last summer I had a wasp nest under my siding under the eaves of the roof, dusted it with tempo and they were gone (including the queen) within a day. This spring at my new place I used it to knock out multiple ant nests around the perimeter of the deck. One bottle will last years. From my understanding this is what the pros use, its pretty impressive. Good luck!

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=== now, when you’re in the kill zone with bees/wasps have you ever had one fly up your sarong? Or do you dress in your finest bee keeper attire - jeans, boots, long sleeves, netting, the works? Just curious—

Somebody say something?

Had a friend that bought a couple of used Klipschorns.I had never heard music reproduced so accurately. Bought some Heresys new in 1978. Later bought some ‘73 LaScalas in 2000. Still enjoying them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If the guys that want only $800 are accredited and insured use them. (period) That is if they offer the same services, take down, remove and clean up. It's for removal, not to prune, shape and beautify. Make sure you're on the same page about how the property is protected and that they won't cause destruction other than that tree.

Thanks Elden. Why she hangs around is a mystery to me but I'm certainly thankful.

I stumbled into the Klipsch store next to the car stereo place. Wish I'd spent less in the car stereo place.....

Something.

Love the story behind that one Mike. And what he turned it into!

Used to use gasoline in a Kilz spray can top when painting, even the fumes from it will knock em down dead. But you can't paint over it and it kills the poinsettas as quick as the wasps.

I found Klipsch looking for horn speakers after watching movies in an old movie theater when I was a kid. I remembered that sound from when my Dad would take to the show, they had what looked like giant speaker to me on each side of the screen on the floor, I can remember seeing the sign "Altec lancing, voice of the theater". I had a bunch of other speakers over the years but none sounded live to me. I looked up Altec almost 20 years later and and all I found was computer speakers, then searched for horn speakers and found Klipsch, it was over.

Just got this and boy have I tripped backwards. It’s all five albums by that heavy psychedelic group Iron Butterfly. Remastered to perfection. I know most of the people here are younger than me and If you want a sample of ‘60s psychedelia this is a must listen. I know you codgers will love it. Available from Amazon for $19.00. “In The garden of Eden baby” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 Blue Note all RVG Edition CDs. Fantastic sound, some include previously un-released alternate versions. Not looking to split these up at the moment, perhaps if no interest in the lot. Several Grant Green, Andrew hill tough to beat and that Bobby Hutcherson is to die for. Herbie Hancock Takin' Off is still sealed. Somehow I ended up with two. One has a cracked cover, some cut outs (please see pix below). Others have typical handling wear but are in overall very nice condition. Most of the actual CDs look like they have never been handled. Guaranteed to play 100% without error or your money back. $110 + Media Mail shipping from zip = 21154 via PPal FF or we can work something else out in PM.

It’s always good to stop at Chipotle to listen to some tunes!

Egads Iron Butterfly. We’ll need some Blue Cheer and (gulp) The Seeds to accompany such a fine selection of ancient brain bending classics. I feel groovier already🤩.

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John played the bass on a couple of them as noted on the cover. That one isn't just the notes all over the place and the timing, it's how he plays them. One of the best, he is!

I have the LP album of Stormwatch And yes I have had a listen to refresh my memory Jethro Tull is unique and fantastic at the same time

Welcome ... 90+% friendly

Welcome to our little corner of the internets. We're glad to meet you! Cincy

Yes and he is one of the well known and respected tree services. Maybe he liked my LF.

Thanks Zack! Welcome to the forum and CC&C in particular.

Did you guys get a chance to listen to that track? That came out in `79 when John Glascock (RIP) was dying way too early from a toothache. Note the lp backside, Ian plays the bass guitar on this one. Ian Anderson is one of those few and far between kind of musicians. Roy Clark comes to mind... he could masterfully play anything with strings, sing, compose etc. Ian's the same way and the bass in this "Something's on the Move" tune is all over the place like a second song within that song. Incredible, just F'n Incredible!!

The movies did it for me, too, but quite indirectly, and long ago. When I saw my first few movies in 70mm and 6 channel (magnetic, analog) stereophonic sound, I couldn't help but notice that the soundtrack orchestras sounded "just like" the high school orchestra and band I played in for 2 hours a day, 5 days a week. Well, not "just like" because the soundtrack orchestras were much better, and different theaters sounded different. But they were closer, by far, than anything I had ever heard. Road shows in those days (and 70 mm showings were) almost always had "exit music," also on the film soundtracks. I sat down close during this music, or walked up and down the aisles until the guys with the flashlights came for me. Upon doing some research, I found that most theater speakers were either Altec Lansing or James B. Lansing (this was before Klipsch started doing movie theaters), and my favorite 70 mm theater used JBL. So I went to some Audio stores and sought out JBL. Anything with a JBL 375 midrange driver sounded unbelievably clear, but they were far, far more than I could ever afford, so I bought a single D130, and waited it out. I went to one store that had speakers along 3 of it's 4 walls, and in every corner. I learned that what Altec and JBL had in common was that they tended to use horn speakers. Hmmmm. The owner played a variety of speakers, starting with a big Bozak ... sweet and clean ... then an Altec A7 VOTT ... a little airier and better attack, but a bit steely ... A JBL 3 way (S8, I think) ... more sparkle and clarity ... then ... Klipschorns, and my orchestra sonically appeared down at the end of the room! Over about the next 20 years or so, I would drop into one of the 8 SF Bay Area stores that had Klipschorns on display, and were willing to demo them, and, while I flirted with others, the Khorns kept winning out. By the time I could afford them, a funny thing happened; movie sound got a bit worse. The early digital soundtraacks tended to be harsh, compared to the warm magnetic analog I had loved. We built our Home Theater, with Klipschorns as the FL and FR, and saw almost all of our movies at home. We did venture out for Phantom of the Opera in 2005(?). It had dynamic, warm sound, "just like" what we had in our Home Theater. I hung around after the showing to ask about the speakers. After several blank looks from employees, I got the manager. "What kind of speakers do you have in this theater?" "Oh, Klipsch!"

I heard and was somewhat familiar with Altecs and Electro-Voice speakers when I as young. Owned some fantastic EVs I wish I still had. Experienced a pair of Klipschorns in a century home and that was that. Always liked the sound. The Altecs and Electro-Voice home audio are long gone but Klipsch endures.

That would bee rough, but it is that sarong that gave him the idea for his name here. I would if I could think if something, but I really like your wife, she seems perfectly normal and funny, even after all those years of you two being together she doing just fine.

After reading the test of the K-horns at Bell labs I ordered them as soon as I saved the money. JJK

@WillyBob you're talking about bees not wasps, right?

If you have an Auto Zone parts store try the spray brake cleaner. Someone told me about it so I tried it and it works great, sprays a heavy stream and knocks them down instantly and they die in a minute but never fly again. It is normally 2.99 but they put it on sale sometimes cheaper, either way it is cheaper than wasp spray. I hate AZ parts and only use them as a last resort but that spray works well and dries almost instantly, whatever it is really screws up wasp.

Cutting baffles.. I used a circle cutting jig with a router to cut two holes in four baffle boards. Each motorboard is a sandwich of 2 3/4 boards. The inset depth for the KappaLites was almost exactly 3/4", so I cut the two front baffle boards to the exterior diameter of the woofers, and the back baffle boards to the smaller interior driver clearance diameter. KappaLites mounted to the front of the motor board. Motorboard is inset 3/4" to look like a heritage cabinet. Back view of motorboards which are attached with a ridiculous amount of pocket screws. I will also add some bracing when I glue up the cabs. I built these over Memorial Day weekend and I had the choice of building braces and not finishing the speakers or skipping the braces and seeing how they sound. Guess which one I chose? Just waiting for backs and wiring..

Before beginning I swung by my local Woodcraft to get Kreg pocket hole screws for the build. Of course they had this great workbench with clamps on sale.. Not having completely simulated the response before building, I decided to do initial construction completely with screws. I wanted to be able to disassemble and make modifications if it didn't measure well. Now that I'm really happy with the response I'll disassemble and glue all the joints and then re-screw to make them extra strong. First I built the two bass bin cabs. The kreg clamps made it easy to get everything perfectly aligned and square. The backs are pocket screwed to the cabinet from the backside for removal. I nailed in a few cleats to hold the back in the proper position when the speaker is resting on it's face. Next up horn cabs..

Wonder if it's gonna rain?

Mostly...

Welcome to the forum! I'm glad you turned the corner from lurker to poster. Great story BTW.

Welcome.

I look at it this way.... you didn't necessarily overpay... didn't you say he had some medical issues or bills? How about you were compassionate about his situation and helped him out by paying a fair market value and while doing so, didn't knock him down for a stupid $200 which might now go towards a good cause (bills). My hat's off to you! As been said, "pics or it didn't happen" !!

IIR filters only--no "named" crossover filters, i.e., Danley-style. Look at the raw response of your drivers/horns. Without FIR filtering, you can't improve on the response that you see there after they've been EQed flat (individually). So you need to select drivers and horns that have good phase response characteristics. It just so happens that the Jub bass bins and TAD 4002/K-402 horns have really good phase response taken individually--after they've been EQed flat by themselves. So all you have to do is put the HF and LF drivers together without phase shifts: Don't use the "crossover filters" that come with DSP crossovers--clear any crossover filters if they're set. Set the HF or LF channel delay to get perfect impulse response in the time domain--as seen in the spectrogram view. Flatten each driver's SPL response within their pass bands. Match the channel gains between flattened phase drivers. Use output channel PEQs to trim off response on each end of the bass and high frequency drivers until you've got overall flat SPL across the crossover interference band and smooth handover of SPL vs. frequency. The drivers themselves will tell you where that transition/crossover should occur. [If you're using MEHs, you'll have to use multiple PEQs to attenuate the bass bin peaks in response above the first notch frequency.] Use the input channel PEQs to further flatten the overall response within the interference band to correct any dips or peaks in response within that band. Voila! Flat phase. It's really that easy. Chris

Better late than never 🤟

Bump er Sticker...

A real shame they abandoned home audio. Would like to see a modern relaunch of the Interface line.

There are still some around of course. Just listening to some EV here yet, get your point...

Is anybody going to San Antone? or Phoenix, Arizona... via Jackson, Mississippi area?

Later even than me. I'm fixin' to start my 58th year of breathing oxygen.

@Tarheel Good to hear you're feeling well enough to .... was pruning the bush/trees today. Came across my least favorite pest.... bees. In the ceiling/roof of one of my sheds. Immediate trip to the store for some raid. Not something I keep around. I don't think they've been there long. Not a big enough space to get too crazy. One can should be ample.Hope I got the queen this attack.

How can we know that when even today kids go undiagnosed? Reminds me of the elderly lady that told my wife that sexual child abuse didn't happen in society when she was growing up. BS!