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Finished my grandsons bed, he designed it, it's all 2" thick wood and matches his desk. It's a full xl, an odd size but he outgrew the single, mostly in length. Glad that's done, now just a little end table for the head of the bed. Then finish remodeling the bathroom, then upstairs bedroom and I can start on my workshop.

That's right! Come after me in my own place minding my own business. Not strong like when I was forty.... so: That's the REAL AC/DC ! & they'd draw back a nub

He actually does sound like he's laughing. Just like in the child's song.

From the vault LP #9 of over 30 This album is from 1979 and still sounds fresh today Artist - Dan Fogelberg ‎ Title - Phoenix Album ID - https://www.discogs.com/Dan-Fogelberg-Phoenix/release/4039151

Just kinda spinnin and listening. Oh yea, enjoyin! This came in the mail one day long ago. I just put it away until yesterday. Much to my suprise it's about $80 on disc cogs. Sounded great! Japan press on Polydor. Years since I've had any Zappa on! Killer Dynamo Hummmmmm! Those Scottish boys cranked this their 3rd out in '73! Cooks! The Nice - Keith Emerson's 1st successful band from 1967. It's ALL about him and a great play!

Doing CDs tonight. Wife is in the other end of the house, pretty tired. While I'm making some spaghetti sauce for the rest of the week I've been listening to Neil Young's Harvest Moon and the first Bela Fleck and the Flecktones.

EBAY

Strangest-looking rabbit I ever saw. They must grow them bigger in Canada. It will certainly fill a pizza.

Cool. I need that for my Iphone.

The Kookaburra: the Australian bird whose call somehow turns up in the background of the soundtrack of most Tarzan movies, which were set in Africa, of course.

I would love to hear your system in action, its looks both beautiful and formidable. 👍 Any chance of you making a video or two for a little demo? 🤘while not live, better than nothing I will prepare ahead of time for a just in case.

Mr. Elmer Fudd must be a crazy right winger then. LOL

Bunny hugger

Great LP right there Full Range!

Not if it is correct, instead of the bastardized version. https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/french-dressing

My daughter can't eat pizza without dipping it in Ranch dressing. I don't know how I failed while raising her.

Got this one Thursday night.

Since you resurrected this 13 year-old thread, you now owe us more photos.

Since I ran out of money, I have. It has nothing to do with trucks though. There's the joke!

They have you. Isn’t that enough —🥵🥶

so life has been very busy... since my last reply I have sold my condo and have just entered into contract on a new house. However, during all this I have not wavered in my pursuit of my very own La Scala's. I am very happy to announce that today I picked up my "new to me" 1976 La Scalas. They are beat up, they are black, but they are mine! Was able to audition them before buying for $900 and they sound amazing. The seller was really cool and went over all the upgrades he made to the XO's... he built the XO's himself from the ALK design back in 2004 before the prebuilt XO's were offered. He made a few additional upgrades to the crossovers over the years like Tweeter specific hookup wire, fuses from Japan, varying taps for time alignment and others I didn't quite understand. Point being, they are working awesome. Some quick pics below taken right before I put them in my storage space... so hard to close that door. Won't be able to listen to them on my system until September 28th when I move into the new house. Sucks, but happy to get have them waiting for me when the new listening room is ready. just wanted to update you all since everyone was so great about helping me find a pair. The plan is to listen to them for a month or so and then get them freshened up with some 1/4" panels and stain them. Want them to look as good as they sound. thanks again for the support!

I have an opportunity to acquire a pair of KHorns but would need to find a new owner for these. The story is that an older couple ownd these since 1978, passed them to their son in 2017 who passed them to a friend who sold them to me. I recapped the AA crossovers with Daytons, but have not done anything else. They are painted a light brown, and are in decent shape, very presentable as is, but one badge is missing. Sound is great, all original drivers. $1200 takes them. My pictures are too large to upload so contact me and I'll send a set to you via PM

Hey. I am brand new to home audio setup. I just bought my first speaker set : https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71MF2CZG4uL.pdf I had hoped to connect it directly into my DVD player, as it has 5.1 outputs. It is a Sony DVP-S530D, old but excellent player (hence it still running flawlessly). Apparently, I need a receiver, as the plugs on the back of the dvd player are single plug points for each speaker, (not positive and negative). I need, a receiver, apparently. However, I have no freaking idea what to buy and I cannot afford to spend $500 on a receiver (more like $250 or so). I need a receiver that is compatible with the speakers mentioned and the DVD player mentioned (by accepting audio outputs described and see on the attached photo of the back of the dvd player). I have seen tons of reviews saying Onkyo's now fail in a few years of use. So, based on reviews, I am leaning toward Denon, but they are super expensive. So, if anyone can help me find an inexpensive compatible receiver, thank you! Thank you for anyone willing to help out a newbie!

Wreote the above at work and had to stop. One thing about my chair response is that my high frequency response increases. Now this could be since I am not measuring the K402 in its center - a littel bit below - they are sitting up really high in the air and my copper tube is not long enough and it is not that important at this point. In MEH configuration I will be able to measure at the center. The SEISMIC cabinets are 35 inches tall and, as you know the K-402 are mounted vertically. Tall imposing thing! I believe that with the MEH the response at one meter will not be anyhwere near as diminished as it has been with a speaker with drivers VERY far apart - voice coils easily thrity inches away from each other. I have not posted anything of real usefulness because there is no way to post an REW file here - they are too large and my pictures are useless. I tried to email them to you, but again, they are too large. I hope I am missing something and there is a way to do this. One thing I found while measuring at 1 meter which goes along with what you have expanded upon to us from Danley's suggestion (!) to never use a filter with a man's name. I greatly appreciate his male chauvinism in this respect. I can just see more craven folk having to insert the obligatory "man or woman's name" in its place. But, what I found was that with no first order filter I got the expected for the greatest part of the range from 100 to 20,000 Hz a straight line at 0 degrees. Then I used a 100 hz first order slope and zero degrees phase became a much larger number. I went up 100 Hz at a time till 600 hz and by then the line remained just as straight as it was, from memory, but close to -1000 degrees. When i would use the PEQs to get the response I wanted using no added filter, as you have stated, there is no phase growth to speak of. So my feeling is that we should not use the first order filters in the XILICA unless one has no other choice. Will be interesting to see what is required with the woofers. Maybe that shift will be useful? Only measuring will tell. I know what filters I need will be different from yours - I am not interested in copying them but It would be interesting to see your approach. I think I am approaching this as you have since I have tried to use your advice along with the fact I had been trying this many months ago on a whim but with my old system, not the kooky one with the Seismics which actually have some phase linearity the old system did not display the goodness. It shows me in hindsight that many of the things we have done traditionally were bandaids for hopelessly flawed systems which is how I would describe my system when it contained to horrendous EDGAR 75 Hz horn. What Danley said in the old DIYAudio post was the purloined letter. It was right there for all to see but from what I have read Chris A was the only person to see the beauty of it and put it into practice and of course bring it to our attention with his measurements. Thanks again, Chris A. Now to work on those holes. By the 2way if I said I was going to make them smaller I made an error. Mine will be as close to 1/10 Sd as possible. I will err on being a little bit large instead of the other way around. Take care,

My porch. Never had a problem.

Hey guys On The Fly is just fine the only thing is you'll most likely get a electric spark sound out of your speakers. It's not spark going to your speakers its just the amplifier reproducing the sound of the connection change.

I purposely applied different finishes for comparisons. Bass cabinet face is semi-gloss clear lacquer. The K-402 face frame is satin clear lacquer. Left wing is boiled linseed oil and right wing is tung oil. The oil finishes probably need another coat(s) in a few days before I evaluate those.

Tony ...aka LORDROOTMAN is a great guy to work with. He has some killer gear too! Tim

Could be worse you could be cold and very flaky, I would have thought California and up the coast would have been included in that. Were stuck between taxes and Alabama/Georgia weather, that's about right.

I was asked to write out my configuration. Here it is: TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P50UT50 50-Inch 1080p 600Hz Full HD 3D Plasma TV (2012 Model) Receiver: Onky TX-DS676 A/V Receiver 5 Channel DVD Player: Sony DVP-S530D Speakers: Klipsch 5.1 Black Reference - Sub is Model R-8SWI (50W), Satellites are all RTP Satellite (50W / 8 Ohm), Center is RTP Center (75 W / 8 Ohm) I appreciate all the suggestions and comments. I guess I am just expecting too much. The receiver did not come with a remote, but I seem to navigate many options using the display. I downloaded the manual for the receiver and the DVD player and am trying to sort through everything. I never used an optical cable before, but it appears I can use it to pipe 5.1 from my TV to the Receiver, meaning my streaming Netflix (through TV app) could be surround sound, right? Can you just output audio through a single optic cable or do you have to connect that digital audio connection or coax cable too? Also, is it really better to use optical rather than RCA to connect the 5.1 from the DVD to the receiver? The DVD player has outputs for 5.1 separately grouped, with each channel having its own RCA plug (see attached). I did manage to get that to flow to the speakers (after much effort). I would hate to start over, but if the sound quality is better, more stable, or something, than I am for it. The DVD player does have an optic output.

His profile says Houston. I'm a bit confused as to who Formula One driver Lewis Hampton is.

Coffee for my breakfast Shot of whiskey on the side It's a dark and dreary morning With the clouds covering up the sky The forecast calls for pain The forecast calls for pain My baby's turning cold And the forecast calls for pain

“there you go again”. Forecast is for cold, very cold and cut to the chase winds. Thank you Al Roker —

If you want to move them closer to the throat to raise the throat-bounce frequency(ies), that's probably a reasonable thing to do. I don't believe that they need to be reduced in size if you're only moving them a half inch or so closer (i.e., from 5" from the leading edage of the off-axis port to the horn throat entrance...to ~4.5" for the same data (i.e., the plural of datum), thus raising theoretical the first bounce frequency from ~680 Hz to ~755 Hz, etc. I just found a picture--it's a single gasket: I use an additional out-of-band attenuating PEQ or perhaps two to cut the out-of-band driver levels to the compression driver (high pass), and I use additional attenuating PEQs on the first two woofer response peaks above the effective crossover frequency (the crossover frequency is about 550 Hz currently). I have attenuating PEQs at ~1300 and 2200-2300 Hz, wherever they show up. I use enough gain on those attenuating PEQs to keep the bass channel roll-off curve pretty much constant above 550 Hz. (I don't remember what I used.) The problem with measuring further back is that the non-minimum phase in-room reflections clutter the measurements. You can't do anything about those (and shouldn't) unless you're into "head in a vise" listening rooms. I'm not... If you look at Toole's book, he'll show flat on-axis response at 1-m or closer, but a tilted response (downward as frequency increases) if measured further away from the loudspeaker. This is the "listening window"...as he puts it. I see this using Dirac vs. REW measurements (i.e., Dirac measurements taken at the listener's positions, and REW measurements at 1m). You can stick your head into the aperture of the horn and still hear a balanced presentation (as Danley has claimed several times in the past). The effective minimum listening distance for the MEHs happens to be "zero" because of that phenomenon. I can detect no lobing. Chris

Klipsch no longer make copper1980's badges -

I have 2 other albums by McKendree Spring, but this one ( and the rest of the LPs I will be featuring ) was hidden / sealed as part a bulk order for a long time and just seen the light of day recently P.S I like the Al kooper vid

The frequency range is specified in the audio range in Hertz, the unit of measurement for vibrations per second. While low tones, i.e. slow vibrations of e.g. a bass string, can even be seen with the naked eye, the average human ear can perceive the range from 16 Hz to 20,000 Hz, which corresponds to a range of about 10 octaves. Within this range, the human ear can distinguish about 400,000 tones.

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Here’s my thoughts that I posted on another forum. (Many of these issues have already been discussed by others in this thread.) Speaker sensitivity is specified on a logarithmic scale. To put this in perspective, some owners of highly sensitive speakers (e.g., Klipschorn, 105dB) are satisfied with a 2wpc tube amp, whereas some people require 100 times that power because their speakers have a low sensitivity rating, and based on other important factors discussed below. Speaker/amp synergy. This is black magic, as far as I’m concerned. IMO, you basically have to audition amps and speakers together to hear if they “play well together”. Tubes vs. solid-state. Analogies are dangerous, but in a sense, this is like the difference between a diesel vs. gas engine when pulling a heavy load. Tube watts “go farther” than solid-state watts. Room size. If you double the length, width, and height, the room has 8 times the volume, meaning much more acoustic power is needed to fill the room. Distance from listening chair to speakers. Sound level is inversely proportional to the square of the distance – i.e., if you sit far away, you need more power. Listening volume. Some people listen at volume levels that causes hearing damage. Again, logarithmic – meaning if you want insane volume level, it takes a lot of power. (FWIW, I don’t recommend that people damage their hearing, or be inconsiderate of neighbors.) Genre of music. Large scale orchestral music can have tremendous dynamic range. Some large-scale classical compositions go from whisper to as many as 200+ musicians playing fff. Classical music can therefore place a relatively large demand on an amp and speakers. Folk music – not so much. Mastering of a recording. Modern hi-res recordings of classical music typically are not compressed, and can include significant dynamic range. OTOH, a lot of pop music is highly compressed, resulting in less dynamic range and less demand on an amp and speakers. (In other words, with some pop music, you can listen at a lower volume level and hear everything because there are no soft and loud passages in the music.) Technology of the consumer deliverable. Modern hi-res consumer deliverables like Blu-ray DTS-HD MA 5.1, 24bit/192kHz download, and SACD are capable of delivering to the consumer the tremendous dynamic range of modern hi-res classical recordings of large-scale classical music. OTOH, some consumer formats (e.g., LP) are capable of less dynamic range, and therefore place less demand on an amp and speakers. Whether or not a subwoofer cross-over is installed before the amp, thereby off-loading power-hungry bass from the main amp and speakers. (I use my Oppo UDP-205’s bass management feature, and line-level subwoofer connection.) Surround sound 5.1 vs. stereo. If you have 3 identical speakers (LCR) across the front, plus rear speakers, and subwoofer(s), you’ll have more acoustic power than 2 speakers. In some surround-sound installations multiple amps are used, in which case each amp is doing only part of the work Bi-amping. In some cases, not only are separate amps used for each channel, but some people bi-amp or tri-amp individual speakers. Again, each amp is doing only part of the work. (For example, a “flea power” SET tube amp may be adequate to drive a K-402 horn, while a more powerful amp drives the associated bass bin.) Ambient noise level in listening room. In a very quiet room, it is easier to hear the quiet passages in classical music, and therefore the volume doesn’t have to be turned up as loud. In my basement system (average size room), I have no problems with dynamics or deep bass, for any music. Front, center, and left speakers are Klipsch RF-7 II. A single rear speaker is a Klipsch RF-7. Subwoofers: SVS SB16-Ultra, Klipsch R-115SW. Source: Oppo UDP-205 universal player, playing hi-res recordings of large-scale classical music. (The Oppo provides the bass management function, meaning that the power-hungry bass is off-loaded from the main amp and speakers.) I have multiple tube amps in this system. If I use, for example, a Scott 296 to drive the left and right channels, and a Fisher KX-200 (or Scott 272) to drive the center and (single) rear channel, there is dynamic range and frequency range approaching a live concert in a symphony hall. (These tube amps each produce approximately 30 - 40 wpc. If I want more muscle, I’ll use my LK150 which produces about 58wpc.) No problems with dynamics, or deep bass, for any genre of music. For big-band music or folk music, my 8wpc single-ended pentode amp is adequate. Bottom line, there’s a big difference between playing an LP of a “little girl with a guitar” in a small listening room, vs. delivering in a large listening room an experience that approximates the live performance of Mahler Symphony 2 - i.e., uncompromised dynamic range and frequency range - when playing this modern Blu-ray that features an uncompressed DTS-HD MA 5.1 audio track:

And yet the basic horn loudspeaker is still fundamentally sound.

I hear rotating the back wheel solely in a stationary position while smiling is best practice. Correct me if I'm wrong?