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Ok so tonight i finely really check out these two Pallets . Cannot say i paid any mind to the fact they seemed a little heavy, turns out the over sized 2 X 4s are hardwood. Oak being one and Alder is the other. Yep, im going to take a serious look at that stack this week. with another boat project ill be doing the whole week out there Just got done coating both w/thompson waterseal i had laying around, these are keepers

You got that right. Most people gain a little knowledge and buy a couple tools and they're in business.

I hate having people work on my house for just that reason. There are few craftsmen any more, just glorified laborers with little training.

Morning gents. Off to supervise the Pella front door and side lite installation at LF's place. The two guys were there all day yesterday and admitted they have only been installing for one year. Left the house unsecured saying they did not have the right screws for the dead lock. There also is an uneven gap at the top of the door. LF paid top dollar for this entry door and the installation WILL be a top dollar install. I don't mind calling corporate and raising hell. So off to work I go......

Good one, I like it but there is no such thing.

Yes. The hard part is finding someone without sin to cast the first one.......

One of the butts are done, another done in another 5-6 degrees, the other two almost 15 degrees. It's 10:55pm, they have been on for 13.5 hours. It's why I am not crazy about cooking butts. Taste good to me.

Restored Chevamoco at the NHRA 4 Wide Nationals in Charlotte NC Looks like a handful

They know this, and would rather be their own competition than lower their quality and standards. That's the PWK legacy in action. Dave

Probably a whole suite of things contributing to it (age, education/experience, DIY skills, etc.). The debut of the Forte IIIs really sparked my interest in acquiring a really nice set of speakers that I would likely pass down. I'm 34 by the way, don't know if that's old or young around these forums. So, I really liked the idea of having a brand spanking new roll-out product from Klipsch, but the more I researched and considered other options, I finally ended up with a pair of unmolested 78' La Scalas. Paid what will probably be less than half of street price for the Forte IIIs. Did I lose half of the potential sound quality or build quality for that matter? I seriously doubt it. Sure I don't have that new speaker smell or as much bass that the IIIs will put out, but I am happy. Also for consideration, not that this applies to the Klipsch family, but we unfortunately must admit, that a good majority of things manufactured today are not done so with longevity in mind.

-- Is it just the cooking of butts you're not crazy about?!

Looks great to me.

This was at welderup the day I took those pictures of the Evel knievel formula 1 dragster.

Based on my 40+ years in the audio industry, here's my opinion of the hierarchy of the importance of audio system components (listed in order of most influence on the system's audible performance to least influence): 1) Loudspeakers. The ONLY components in the system that actually produce sound. The speakers contribute the overwhelming majority of influence on the sound of any audio reproduction system. You can swap amps or preamps forever and you'll never change the system's sound anywhere near as much as you will by changing the speakers. 2) Listening-room acoustics. Non-believers: Compare $10k spent on improving your room acoustics vs. $10k spent on that new preamp you've been lusting after and get back to me about which made the bigger improvement in how your system sounded. Be honest now; listen with your ears and brain, not with your heart (and wallet). 3) Signal source device if you still get your music by dragging a rock through a groove in a piece of plastic. If you get your music by decoding it from a robust set of numbers, this moves down to #6. 4) High-level amplification device. When connected to an actual loudspeaker, this becomes part of a two-way circuit that exhibits its own unique performance characteristics (as heard through the loudspeaker), so it's important to select a device that plays nice with the particular speaker. 5) Low-level amplification device(s). This matters a little more for rock-draggers and it matters a little less for number-crunchers. 6) Signal source device if you get your music by decoding it from a robust set of numbers. If you get it by dragging a rock through a groove in a piece of plastic, this moves up to #3. 7) (For number-crunchers only) DACs and other devices that deal exclusively with numbers — no analog circuitry. Once you eliminate jitter, they really all sound the same. If it contains analog circuitry, it belongs up in #6.

Here is a very nice article that ran in the Texarkana Gazette yesterday about the Museum and the Transfer Ceremony.'' http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/story/story/2017/May/07/klipsch-museum-audio-history-sound-history-being-made/672937/ Travis.

I sent a letter asking about a club and the adds they use to have in Rolling Stone which I thought were very cool.....

@dtel@dtel's wife@ssh@Chief bonehead and @all my Forum friends. Camp Lillian Spring is open to all who will leave it as they found it. I'd particularly like to see if Roy, or anyone, can manage to get the marvelous fish out of the Cossatot. I've been watching people try now for 60 years and yet to see anyone really succeed. But they are there...beauties, in groups near the shore often. Drop in bait and they swim around it, bump it with their tails, and generally ignore it. But you see them striking at feeding times at insects on the water. Anyway, pretty close to everything one needs for the better life there now, not that I still don't have some work to do. Power is still via extension cord from the pole and at some point this year I'll run a 50 amp line over for more permanent use. But it works. See attached pictures. There is also a camper there with thermostatically controlled heat and air that can sleep three in the background in the picture where Thomas is playing his viola at the campfire. We have a privacy tent for the potty and hot shower, but when I took this it was just Thomas and I, so I didn't have it set up. Cabin, while small at 12X16, can sleep several. It has an icemaker, fridge, microwave. The only reason that microwave is there is that I had an extra not in use. Frankly, whole place is getting a bit more civilized than I every intended. But, a bit older now and some comforts are nice. Last shots are of the river about 2 miles away by car. You can actually walk roughly 1500 feet from camp going north and get to a magnificent place on the river...but the last 500 feet is about a 30 percent grade. My son and I last visited there last season...and I am done. 67 is a bit old for that grade. Wore out both my 16 year old son and my German Shepherd, who had to be coaxed to keep going on the trip back up. I am considering suggesting to the state they put a switchback trail in there as the trailhead would be right across the highway from my property (enlightened self-interests, donchaknow) and a great "pack it in, pack it out" access to a primitive area on this magnificent stream. My mother's family have lived on and around this river since the late 19th century. Runs through our family like a river...as it were. We even have what is called "the river test" for young men or women who might be interested in joining the family. If they come back after a trip here with our insanity, they are keepers. If they don't, it will not work out. Hasn't failed yet. Anyone who wants to use it PM me. Dave

@Mallette - I'm sure they do know it, and as you said, probably relish the fact that they are probably among their own top competitors. I think there are still a lot of folks, like myself and probably you guys reading this thread, who are willing to pay a little more or even substantially more for something that will last much longer vs. save money, pay less, get it now but will only last a short period of time. working in IT, you know we have many acronyms. I've believed & followed the principle of ROI - return on investment - since LONG before I ever saw an acronym for it.

The pair we listened to in the sound room on Pilgrammage Friday were built the day before, Thursday. According to the Klipsch employee manning the listening room.

Also scored a vintage Sansui reciever from a neighbor. It's a 5000A, for you Sansui fans. The FM section sounded a little lifeless but plugged in my phone with some FLAC files and it sounded pretty dang awesome!

I was going to recommend a used non-1200 Technics table. Jump on this deal. I have a 1200 and a 1400. Great tables, but the 1200's have gotten very expensive.

My father collected RTR recordings for decades that I also plan to transfer to FLAC, de-hiss, and demaster for those tapes that can be played still (many have deteriorated past the point of recovery). Now that he's passed, it's a legacy that my offspring might like to pass on to their future generations. I think of it like digitizing old photographs.

@Innocent_George has made me an offer I can't refuse. I believe I have a pair lined up for later this month. Thank you SO much!

Morning gents Weather Drama Queens calling for 90+ Deli / Farm run for Taco Tuesday.....

Said the prophet.

Unboxed and hooked up to the amps.

There are two there, as well as two tarps under that. Three 18' intex in 9 years is not too bad. However she agreed with the kids gone, im done w/pools. This bottom of the pool plastic/vynil is thick, i pressure wash it when projects are complete.

Now I know what I can do with the Intex pool that we're not using anymore. Ground cloth, perfect.

4 wide AA/GS These things are awesome , low 7's short wheelbase craziness

I like those photos. A Rat motor powered Ford Falcon? You don't see those every day. It occurs to me there are MANY MORE Chevy powered Fords than there are Ford powered Chevrolets.

That's a pretty good chore making 500' of stone. You're not afraid of work. That looks spectacular!

Got a pair of A6 Altec VOTT speakers in near mint condition new caps in the network also has N1285-8B network with 500Hz-800Hz-1200Hz crossover point choices. $1500

That's perfect Seadog, you covered a lot of ground with the pictures,Thank You.

Yes they are, I love a good butt. One thing that helps is I found an easy way to pull them, it's a SS shaft with a disc at the bottom with 5 shorter rods off the bottom. It goes in a cordless drill, you put the butts in a big pot and run the drill at full speed. It shreds 2 butts in about 1 Minute, which is much better than doing it manually. I say big pot because if it is not tall enough pork butt will be flying everywhere, our little dogs prefer the shorter pot.

I would focus my search between the SC-3 and the RC-62. The SC-3 should be found widespread under $200.

I seem to recall some commentary when I first brought my Jubilee's home, stating how good they sounded blah blah blah... Being essentially chastised that they can't sound that much better, especially given that I was using "Kluge" amps (I believe was the word)... I've pretty much ignored those comments, especially as some who came from that point of view, had never heard them....so I keep chugging along in my own blissful ignorance...not realizing these are not supposed to sound as good as they do.

I'm not seeing the problem....

Nice condition. Hard to find a pair this nice. 16 ohm. The horns in picture are not for sale but were used for curves. Don't know the history. Sound great $600 shipped http://www.jblpro.com/pub/obsolete/2482.pdf You can see the published curve looks similar to this. Their scale makes the curve more "squashed" as it is a 40dB scale. Showing mine on 30dB scale which will over "exaggerate" the dips and peaks compared to theirs. Of couse....mine was measured in a room.

Haven't seen this so much on the forums here as elsewhere and on Facebook groups, but there seems to be some odd fixation that people "have to buy new." I totally get people wanting to have a product that they know the history of, but a lot of these people are complaining about budgets and wanting the "best bang for their buck." I'm sure there's an instant gratification component too, but a lot of these people seem to be younger and more inclined to buy the cheap Pioneer or Sony AVR at Best Buy and/or the entry level Klipsch speakers or Polk line over a deal 5 minutes away from them on the local CL. Sure it makes it easier for us looking for deals, but it still strikes me as odd. I can count on one hand in each of my setups how many items were bought new vs. used in the whole chain. Amps, speakers, components, the whole lot in some of them... Is it a culture thing? An age thing? What are your thoughts?

It's hard to believe that a forum member would do this but I was made an offer by Forum member, made the payment and that was the last I heard from him. He hasn't responded to messages or emails. I say it is hard to believe because the guy took me for all of $10. I was looking for some Klipsch Emblems and he offered me them for the price of postage. I gave him a bit extra. He appeared to have a good rep on the forum but it is well over a month and he's not responding. I will not post the name here, but I will release it to a moderator and he can post it if he wishes. the $10 won't break me. I'm posting this as a warning, that despite there usually being a camaraderie on a Forum you still have to be careful.

Not all that generous. Just needs enjoying it and I can't think of any reason why I shouldn't share God's creation as freely as He does. Given your location, I assume you are still near. Just let me know and I'll PM or email the combination. It's the same for the gate and building. Don't have a key up there yet for the camper, but intend to leave one next visit...which won't be long. Dave

https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/installing-prehung-exterior-door

Looks nice, but then again, I like black speakers. Price is right, the average for LS in good shape is $1360. Someone should go get these and have some fun.

Library of Congress......

I'd ditch these first myself. RP-250S or RP-160M's should be significantly smoother.

I just Looked. It was a few weeks after I bought my La Scalas. I was so proud and looking for any information I could find. Mine were mismatched, one year apart and one with a K-55-V and another with a K-55-M.

-- If I could understand what the helll you're selling, I'd likely pick it up myself; jus because it sounds damn impressive!!!

And just to keep things interesting This band has a warning - Now Don't Blow Your Speakers Out Aussie Hard rock - 1974 Artist - Buffalo Title - Only Want You For Your Body Music style is a mixture of Black Sabbath and Uriah Heep

The electronics is every bit as important as the speakers/room in getting a system to provide optimum reproduction and, as PZ stated, synergy is critical. While Chris may find differences in upstream equipment to be only subtle, many do hear significant differences even when the equipment is of extremely high quality.. One of the areas of disagreement which many of us NYC area audio guys had with Julian Hirsch was his apparent belief that gear which measured the same sounded the same. There's no substitute for auditioning equipment (whether it be speakers or electronics) at home which is why some dealers offer a return privilege. It is well worth doing business with them as the cost of return shipping often pales in comparison with getting stuck with equipment which is not pleasing to one's ears. Maynard

Very interesting. It actually makes sense to me with other up to date Danley designs. I would love to hear these and believe i will have a chance in about 2 months thankfully.