Alex L Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Hey Alex: I think that colterphoto1 is bang on in his assessment of Klipsch today. The Heritage line needs to be kept fresh and relevant if you want to show the world how good you were/are otherwise drop it and focus on the future. The problem is that most of the old the old stuff is already better than the new stuff. The consumer does not want the old stuff because it is too big and too expensive. They want an elephant to be stuffed into a shoe box and they want surround so you have to build tall skinny towers which will fit into smaller spaces. Klipsch is a very different animal now. Paul is all but forgotten and the old guard is all but gone now. Best regards Moray James. Yawn. You don't work here, so don't act like you know what's happening inside these walls. Quite frankly, it's insulting to me and everyone who actually cares about the company. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Yawn. You don't work here, so don't act like you know what's happening inside these walls. Quite frankly, it's insulting to me and everyone who actually cares about the company. there you go!!! Nice one Alex The company is never going to please everyone, so don't even try. Edited December 24, 2014 by Schu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Hey Alex: I think that colterphoto1 is bang on in his assessment of Klipsch today. The Heritage line needs to be kept fresh and relevant if you want to show the world how good you were/are otherwise drop it and focus on the future. The problem is that most of the old the old stuff is already better than the new stuff. The consumer does not want the old stuff because it is too big and too expensive. They want an elephant to be stuffed into a shoe box and they want surround so you have to build tall skinny towers which will fit into smaller spaces. Klipsch is a very different animal now. Paul is all but forgotten and the old guard is all but gone now. Best regards Moray James. Yawn. You don't work here, so don't act like you know what's happening inside these walls. Quite frankly, it's insulting to me and everyone who actually cares about the company. Alex: if you feel insulted that is your problem to own and to deal with and your attitude is as I see it just the tip of the problem iceberg where you work. It is not difficult to see on your site and in the shops what the company you are working for is promoting. Frankly I find it insulting that you presume to know how I feel about Klipsch. I have deep respect for the company that PWK started and ran. If I see the company that you work for do a 1/4 of what Paul did and you will begin to earn my respect. Sorry but just because a corporation buys up a company does not give them a gimme on the respect that the previous folks built, you have to earn the consumers respect for yourself. I see you are doing a bang up job of that today. Yawn yawn yawn? Alec you better wake up you buddy are sleeping on the job. Best regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Chad Posted December 24, 2014 Administrators Share Posted December 24, 2014 To add to Alex's reply -- Let's put something in perspective. Klipsch's employee roster is filled with: Audiophiles Non-audiophiles Musicians (seriously, I think this is the biggest demographic of our roster, it's insane how many musicians work here) Audio producers Video producers Audio history buffs Music lovers Movie nerds Home Theater enthusiasts Vinyl record collectors Hardcore video gamers Party animals Laid-back folks and, obviously... Scientists Acoustic engineers Electrical engineers Industrial designers All of us... ALL OF US... believe in just about everything we put out to market, and we all love our rich history and the core principles PWK put forth for us. A lot (an incredible amount) of work goes into every aspect of every component of every product we create - from the concept sketches, to the endless meetings, to the design iterations, to the endless testing, to the QC, to the packaging design, to the marketing, to the websites, to the sales, to the support. So many things have to happen to put something out on the market, and a reason why some might consider our prices to be high is BECAUSE so much goes into our products, and nothing is taken lightly. Yes, once in a while some things turn out to be a miss, but that's just the nature of things. This is an extremely difficult industry to compete in. Every time we do an internal demo of our new products (we just did one the other day for some of the new stuff being announced at CES), we get very excited and can't wait to get it in the hands of those who want to have the clean, highly-efficient, low-distortion audio with controlled directivity and high accuracy that we are known for. So, just keep all that in mind before trashing something that you haven't even seen with your own eyes or heard with your own ears yet. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex L Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Hey Alex: I think that colterphoto1 is bang on in his assessment of Klipsch today. The Heritage line needs to be kept fresh and relevant if you want to show the world how good you were/are otherwise drop it and focus on the future. The problem is that most of the old the old stuff is already better than the new stuff. The consumer does not want the old stuff because it is too big and too expensive. They want an elephant to be stuffed into a shoe box and they want surround so you have to build tall skinny towers which will fit into smaller spaces. Klipsch is a very different animal now. Paul is all but forgotten and the old guard is all but gone now. Best regards Moray James. Yawn. You don't work here, so don't act like you know what's happening inside these walls. Quite frankly, it's insulting to me and everyone who actually cares about the company. Alex: if you feel insulted that is your problem to own and to deal with and your attitude is as I see it just the tip of the problem iceberg where you work. It is not difficult to see on your site and in the shops what the company you are working for is promoting. Frankly I find it insulting that you presume to know how I feel about Klipsch. I have deep respect for the company that PWK started and ran. If I see the company that you work for do a 1/4 of what Paul did and you will begin to earn my respect. Sorry but just because a corporation buys up a company does not give them a gimme on the respect that the previous folks built, you have to earn the consumers respect for yourself. I see you are doing a bang up job of that today. Yawn yawn yawn? Alec you better wake up you buddy are sleeping on the job. Best regards Moray James. Happy Holidays! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 If the dealers know what's coming down the pipe, I wonder how Klipsch can keep it a big secret. I'm guessing it's something more than what the dealers know. The more people that are "in the know", the more potential that the info is leaked. Typical dealers don't know any more than you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted December 24, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted December 24, 2014 Metro, I think that was the point I was trying to make. I figured it was kept from dealers. Thx for confirming my thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I seriously doubt it will be anything that will impress any of us old-timers. It won't be car audio, they don't have the QC for that demanding application, nearly anything electronic other than Mondial has been problematic (SUB12 quality issues, anyone remember RoomGroove?), I see the Heritage line dying a slow death due to lack of stateside sales. Even the Pro?/Cinema line is pretty antiquated by modern standards. Was just at a Fry's electronics and of course the Klipsch display of the new portables didn't work. Probably just another rehash of something some competitor has had on the market for a year already, poorly designed and overpriced. Audiovox will be the death of this company, mark my words. Low Blow on so many levels Michael...! By the way just because technology is "antiquated" doesn't make it uncompetitive or out of date if it address the laws of physics properly. Give me a room with good acoustics and a quality recording and an "antiquated" KHorn then I can bring a person emotions of tears to joy from the reproduced music at least if they have a soul that feels. miketn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 This is an extremely difficult industry to compete in. I think this is a point often missed. We'd all like "cost no object" products for "middle of the road, used" prices but obviously no business could survive those conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K5SS Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I can't help but think that the new "Reference" line of speakers has made quite a few Klipsch supports here put their guards up. I think the new "Reference" line, subwoofers to soundbars, is nothing more than cheap, big-box audio. I hope this new product lives up to the high expectations of the die-hard Klipsch supporters on this forum. Not an easy task but I still have faith in Klipsch! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 What would PWK do? I'll tell you what he would do, and that is what he always intended to do and that is make a beautiful piece of furniture Jubilee for home use! Roger Problem with that is that it would violate the cardinal points he'd already laid down. Dave ? please clarify miketn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex L Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I can't help but think that the new "Reference" line of speakers has made quite a few Klipsch supports here put their guards up. I think the new "Reference" line, subwoofers to soundbars, is nothing more than cheap, big-box audio. I hope this new product lives up to the high expectations of the die-hard Klipsch supporters on this forum. Not an easy task but I still have faith in Klipsch! That's definitely fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I seriously doubt it will be anything that will impress any of us old-timers. It won't be car audio, they don't have the QC for that demanding application, nearly anything electronic other than Mondial has been problematic (SUB12 quality issues, anyone remember RoomGroove?), I see the Heritage line dying a slow death due to lack of stateside sales. Even the Pro?/Cinema line is pretty antiquated by modern standards. Was just at a Fry's electronics and of course the Klipsch display of the new portables didn't work. Probably just another rehash of something some competitor has had on the market for a year already, poorly designed and overpriced. Audiovox will be the death of this company, mark my words. Low Blow on so many levels Michael...! He probably felt differently when he worked there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) I can't help but think that the new "Reference" line of speakers has made quite a few Klipsch supports here put their guards up. I think the new "Reference" line, subwoofers to soundbars, is nothing more than cheap, big-box audio. I hope this new product lives up to the high expectations of the die-hard Klipsch supporters on this forum. Not an easy task but I still have faith in Klipsch! to be perfectly honest I Dislike the new line. Now obviously people can say all day I don't work for Klipsch. But as a so called "advisor" as I talk to tons of people and push klipsch products like it is my dang job, I get asked so many times about the new reference stuff at best buy. It is irritating cause I have to explain that it is not the same as the reference ii stuff. The prices are so close and I think Klipsch did a good job of getting into pockets of people as they are now selling "reference" stuff to everyone. I just think, to me, they kind of cheated people. Because for a small percentage more, the reference ii stuff is much superior. All my opinion if course. Edited December 24, 2014 by Scrappydue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex L Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I can't help but think that the new "Reference" line of speakers has made quite a few Klipsch supports here put their guards up. I think the new "Reference" line, subwoofers to soundbars, is nothing more than cheap, big-box audio. I hope this new product lives up to the high expectations of the die-hard Klipsch supporters on this forum. Not an easy task but I still have faith in Klipsch! to be perfectly honest I Dislike the new line. Now obviously people can say all day I don't work for Klipsch. But as a so called "advisor" as I talk to tons of people and push klipsch products like it is my dang job, I get asked so many times about the new reference stuff at best buy. It is irritating cause I have to explain that it is not the same as the reference ii stuff. The prices are so close and I think Klipsch did a good job of getting into pockets of people as they are now selling "reference" stuff to everyone. I just think, to me, they kind of cheated people. Because for a small percentage more, the reference ii stuff is much superior. All my opinion if course. Everything will make sense in due time, my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 We can only hope the news will not be more new reference along the lines of Synergy. That said I hope Klipsch and their team have a GREAT New Year coming and their Big Launch is well received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Wow, this turned into a real turd. I am excited to see what the release is. Klipsch has done a great job of staying alive. If only Heritage were made, the company would have gone belly up years ago. Just the reality of the market. Merry Christmas everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted December 24, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted December 24, 2014 Everything will make sense in due time, my friend. This is exactly what Amy was saying before she left. I'm hoping the best days are ahead for Klipsch. We may not agree with every decision Klipsch makes but I myself have faith in them and truly believe they have amazing products that I will enjoy for years to come. Merry Christmas to the Klipsch family and the Klipsch Community!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 No matter what, I feel forum members deserve a special reveal maybe a day ahead of time? Make it happen chad! We did when the HIII and LSII were coming out. Klipsch said they wanted us to keep our mouths shut when in reality they wanted us to spread the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Let's be honest, if Klipsch did release the perfect ideal speakers we all hope for. Who would go out and buy in the next year? I know if it was something I was really after I would make a huge attempt, but to be honest with myself I wouldn't be able to afford anything right now. I just hope that what ever it is. It brings back the name that people once remember. Along with drawing in the new upcoming audiophiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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