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Here we go. Got the second MC250 today, monoblocked with my other on the Chorus II's....Khorns outside, LS inside. Fisher 500C top left, Mcintosh MX110Z top right, Scott LK-150 center, MC240 left, MC30's in the back. Technics SL1400MKII TT, Oppo 105D. I've got a great switch in between, and can go between the LS and Khorns, and combine them with the Chorus II's, or whatever I decide to put in there. Not great on my back, but a helluva lot of fun.

My wife and I are not MOST people.... just saying.. Ya got that right Jim.. MKP :-)

I knew it was only a matter of time before someone would go "all technical" on us and ruin what as a fun thread! Now I have to google "woofer juices" to try to keep up.

Got it into system yesterday....Nice. Sorry about the flash G.E.M.

It may be just me but I would put the jumpers back on the RF-7s and run one set of wires to each speaker. EDIT: It also looks like the Marantz SR5011 is rated for 4 Ohm speakers and should be sufficient to drive those speakers without the outboard amps.

Hi All, **This is a re-post from January with several updates. I have an MCM 4-way system with a noteworthy background and in very nice condition that’s looking for a new home. This set was originally built in August, 1984 and used as the house “mains” in the 1180-seat Performance Hall at Lincoln Center (pictured) in Fort Collins, CO – a premier concert venue that played host to literally dozens of national/international musicians and Broadway shows while this system was in service (I have a fairly good list of artists and play dates drawn from local archives and the historical society). These speakers have carried the voices and music of many names you’d recognize, including Willie Nelson (1999), Nickel Creek (2006), Tracy Chapman (1995), Michael McDonald (1994), Ray Charles (2002), Manhattan Transfer (1992, 2009), Charlie Daniels (1986), The Beach Boys (2000), Wynton Marsalis (1992, 2008), B.B. King (2003), The Indigo Girls (2010), Ricky Lee Jones (2009), and Lyle Lovett (2007), to name just a few. Hank Williams’ daughter Jett played there (1993) in a unique appearance with a rendition of Hank’s Drifting Cowboys Band. The system was removed from Lincoln Center as part of a major renovation to the building in 2010, in which the architecture and acoustics of the Performance Hall were significantly updated. They made their way into the hands of a local church where they were used as part of a portable system for a period of time, taking a number of dings and scratches along the way. I purchased them at the end of 2013 from a gentleman in nearby Loveland who was using them as part of his home theater system and was preparing to move to a smaller residence. Over the last two-plus years, I’ve spent time giving them a refresh. In addition to the cabinet bumps and bruises, one of the K-43s was missing, one of the K-55s was inoperable (no obvious reason why), and several modifications had been made for portable use – Neutrik Speak-On connectors were added to the input panels, some of the fuses were bypassed, and the MWM input panels were recessed so they’re flush with the surface of the cabinets. I’ve taken care of the driver & other electrical issues and the system sounds absolutely amazing. There’s no evidence it has ever been pushed to its limits. I turned it up in a 50 x 80 foot room with a 9-foot ceiling (200W/channel Soundcraft amp), and it actually started snowing tiny pieces of ceiling tile all across the room. I’ve also spent significant hours on the cabinets, replacing/updating hardware, fixing the more significant cosmetic issues, and painting them with Duratex paint from Acrytech (3 coats on the exterior surfaces). Having worked with Klipsch MCMs professionally in the past and having also spent some time rubbing elbows with engineers at the Klipsch facilities shortly before these were built, I couldn't pass up this project. I’m now looking to find them a new home since I don’t have the space for them at my place. Here’s the low-down on the system components: 2 – double MWM subs, each with 2 Klipsch K-43 15-inch drivers 2 – MSSM low mids, each with a single K-41 10-inch driver 2 – MSM high mids, each with 4 K-55-M compression drivers 2 – MTM tweeters, each with 5 piezo drivers 2 – MMTM tweeters that were added to the system later, I believe in the early 90s based on serial numbers, each with 4 K-77-M drivers (nice bonus!) 2 – M-4-B passive crossovers. One has a City of Fort Collins asset tag on it. Each section pair is sequentially numbered, and about half of them still have their inspection tags. Keep in mind I don't see this as a touring system - no handles or trim to make them roadworthy. Permanent installation in a 500-1500 seat venue, home theater, or some other non-travelling use is going to be ideal (although I suppose some of you more clever folks could retrofit them). Some additional notes in the interest of transparency: As stated above, during the time this set was part of a portable system it sustained a number of dents and scratches. While great care was taken and quality materials were used in the refinishing work, there are still some imperfections in the finish. However, the original finish was not as durable as the new, and the cabinets likely took some dings & scratches in their original installation and subsequent removal. Overall appearance is almost certainly much better now than when they left the Performance Hall. Other cosmetic defects of note: 1. Klipsch logo plates on the MWMs and MTMs have some scratches (pictured). I checked with Klipsch and they no longer stock the plates, so I left them as-is. 2. The logos on the MSM horns took some dings that a previous owner touched up with less than perfect results (pictured). Not being an expert with fiberglass, I left them as I found them. It doesn't really detract from the overall appearance. Weight and Transportation Those familiar with MCMs know they’re a bear to move. Larger sections move quite easily on furniture dollies, which I'll include if desired, but they have no handles so lifting must be done with care and forethought (and several sets of hands). That said, transporting them from Colorado myself when I bought them turned out to be easier than I anticipated. I’ve checked into transport via freight door-to-door, which seems to run an average of about $1.50 per mile. I'm open to exploring that option with the buyer, and would pack & pallet for no extra charge. I have several avenues to sell them but want to start with the Klipsch Community first. Given their present condition and where they came from I'm asking $4500 w/pickup in Minneapolis, but I’m open to discussion. As for myself, I’m a Klipsch enthusiast dating back to 1978 when I heard my first pair of La Scalas. Since I was doing some freelance sound work and my budget was tight back then, I picked up a pair of Industrial Heresy’s (HI-BG) for use in small venues and got raves. In 1982 I went to work for a local company that sold the Klipsch Professional line, and I had the privilege of spending some time at the Klipsch facility in 1983, including visits to the Paul Klipsch home (any others of you know about Paul's train set? He gave me a demo - funny story.). I upgraded to La Scalas that year (still have them), and I never get tired of their magnificent sound. Thanks everyone! Jim

Hi James, I tried following some leads a while back but wasn't able to find out. If I get some time I'll take another run at it. Enquiring minds want to know. Jim

For those of us regulars here, we are all sick. Does everyone remember the withdrawal we all went through the weekend the forum was upgraded?

Bass didn't sound quite right so instead of adjusting the EQ I dropped and did 20 push-ups now the bass is tight and dynamic like I just got new subs.[emoji14] Sent from my SM-G920R4 using Tapatalk

And you'll freely admit you're a sick puppy, so there.

Only for Cohen or in the movie Risky Business:

She was easy.

LOL MKP :-)

I've looked at Mr.Cohen in many different ways over the years. Here's a take I wrote in another forum awhile back: Bob Dylan Is a Balladeer, that Makes Leonard Cohen... ...A sex starved maniac. Hah! Thought I was going to say "poet" didn't you? Well on the surface, you would be correct. A deep sonorous voice coupled with obscure lyrics and an art house beat. Poet. Fur sure. I think not. In my wild and feckless youth I burnt many a smoky offering on the alter of my contemporary Leonard Cohen, in hopes he was the longed for missing link between the death of religion and the coming Dawn of Thebes. Somewhere along the way, lost to the press of my pursuit of Godhead, I placed Cohen aside, remembered but in a very real sense forgotten. Unplayed. But then one day, years later, I built a marvelous stereo system, an altar of its own upon who I lavished the same worship and attention my various minions lavished upon me. And so I reached out, pulled from the pile a dusty, but pristine vinyl copy of "The Songs of Leonard Cohen" . I lit a smoking offering, sat back, prepared to be overwhelmed in a poetic bliss, only to discover that old Leonard was one horny son-of-Maryanne and was really penning pornographic notes to lover-of-the-moment. Ah well, I thought. Life is full of unrealized dreams and expectations. But then I stumbled upon a disc of all things, entitled "Tower of Song the Songs of Leonard Cohen" a compilation. A gathering of artists who had fallen under his spell, inspired, and created their own understanding of what blessing he, the poet, had cast upon the waters. An awesome and eclectic collection of "various artists" (sometimes known as the usual suspects). Upon deep reflection, and many more burnt offerings, I have determined that Leonard Cohen is one hell of a horny poet. So get in touch with your inner lustiness and track down a copy. Published in 1995

Unfortunately these RIP threads will be/have been pilling up...Glad I was around to appreciate their music when they were alive.

Oh man. One of my all time favorites. Probably the best concert I ever saw in my life was early 70's when he toured with the Gap Band. RIP Leon.

I've always been a big Leon Russell fan, he will be missed.

Talk about two ends of the rope. Loved Leon and couldn't hardly stand Leonard!

just because it deserves to be quoted

I've been alcohol and drug free my entire adult life and find my music sounds best in the AM. I love it all day and night but mornings are the time I fire up my dual 1229 and sort thru my vinyl collection and just get into really listening to the music. Throughout the day music is background for living and working but AM is time for music listening priority. I like reading about audio audio equipment and love a good system but it's the music that is most interesting to me. Solid state versus Tubes is fun to read about but my Tom Petty Greatest Hits record moves me. Even without booze, drugs, $10,000 mono blocks on the floor with expensive cables on risers, that album and 100s of others make for a great start to my day. Btw, my Forte1s and my old rebuilt Dual and my midpriced Yamaha receiver with my HSU sub sounds better than anyone's system that I know. I know SS is harsh and subs are a no no around here but my music makes me happy and I'm not chasing the never satisfied bug.

I still grind the 8 O'Clock original, or, I should say, y wife grinds it for me so it is ready when I get up in the mornings!

^^^^^ ---- and you're alive to tell about it??

Wish they still made Bokar, even though I haven't had caffeine in more than a year.

newtune (Tom) will laugh, but this is the second one I've bought since I sold him the one I took to Hope this past spring. I realized the error of my ways, and brought a couple back into the fold. These are truly terrific amps at a great price point, and Mcintosh did a fantastic voicing job with these.

really bad low res pic....but at the bottom left pic, that is Gwin running back to the plant before lunch...she is to the left in the pic (yep, she didn't have a beard back then...LOL!).

You guys are a little over critical Mark

will those work for near field listening?

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NY Times and CNN confirms. I always likened his talents and and in general, musicality, with JJ Cale. Both great song writers and musicians. For many years we used to boat at Grand Lake in NE Oklahoma, Leon's old stomping ground. Actually came face to face with him in Grove, OK at small restaurant. He was leaving, we were heading in. It's like you're kinda stunned but you can't mistake him. Nodded heads, both said hey and that was that. Still kinda cool ---

I was a huge fan. His concerts were so much fun! I always concidered him an American music treasure. Sad day, sad day...

I'm doing a bit of cleaning on the inside of both amps today....noticed one of the gain pots was intermittant, and will be wiring them back up later today.

Its been a while so I thought I would stop in and say hi. Working on my third cup, coffee is good, life is good. Hope all is well with everyone.

I WANT a couple refrigerators... I have no qualms about it personally, but my banker does.

Not sure who originally said it but Ron White said it the best "You can't fix stupid". Rule out stupidity, ignorance, and a loose grasp of English. And keep in mind that speed limit signs are just a suggestion.....there would be nothing but perfect drivers.

Yes there was a report on the 11th that his death was a hoax. Two days later he really died? Coincidence? Still digging for more.

I love refrigerator sized speakers! My 19s, although not as big as jubs or Khorns, are not small in any stretch of the imagination and I love it. I have no issues with transparency and I enjoy that from the Khorns. My reasoning for choosing the Chorus II is simple: they work in more situations. Now here is where I will receive my beatings as I describe what I don't like about the khorn: First, it is, more than any other speaker, room dependent. If your room is too small, forget it - they will be a muffled mess. If your room is too big, you need a center fill - don't want it, just want 2 channel. Being that it uses the walls and floor as an extension of itself, your walls literally become the speaker and impart a sound all their own. You will hear the room. Second, everything is big. An orchestra should sound huge, and the khorn nails this like no other. A single musician with a guitar should sound small - yet the khorn presents it as larger than life. I guess it leads to my first point again, but unless you've got everything perfect, there's no imaging to speak of. Now, if everything is perfect, the khorn will most likely have no mercy beating the Chorus down into a puddle of its own woofer juices. But therein lies the Chorus' biggest strength against them: they work without everything being perfect.

Bidding up to $525

Until you hear them.

Well, I just got my second one, and am running them monoblock to the Chorus II's. Direct from source, Oppo 105D.

I will take that as a compliment....thanks. And actually, the listening position is not as close as it looks. The photo kind of compresses everything, and I've worked out the positioning so that even in their respective spots, they really do compliment each other in many ways. Not perfectly ideal, but then, that's ok. I think I'll leave it this way....for a few days.....

Key point. The K'horn is, and I am only quoting, "mercilessly transparent." Some don't want that. Dave

Washington not looking good, Mich looking like they are only going to dial up 3 points in the 1st quarter. I'm guessing there is a playoff bid awaiting the Big 10 winner, either Ohio State or Mich?

Damn!!

Great looking speakers gl on sale.

Bath Day and recovery:

Pretty rockin deals huh? Bill