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So last night I made a great deal where I came home with 4 La Scala Split Industrials. 1 of the pairs just fine and already hooked up. The other pair are fixer uppers that he basically just threw in. Here's what is 100% certain according to the previous owner and what I can see. - 4 total Fuses + 4 Fuse Caps are needed. - 1 Tweeter diaphragm needed(paint got deep in there). Everything else is unknown to me and unknown to the previous owner. I've never owned any La Scalas or any industrial Klipsch speakers, so I need guidance if driver removal is beyond simply unscrewing the front of the top and sliding it out and unscrewing the bottom of the bass bin and sliding it out. Tutorials on process of removing everything? Not sure how I test each driver for functionality and testing the crossover other than manually swapping out with the good pair in my house(seems like there's got to be an easier way). I'm not savvy at this stuff. But, making sure I know what parts need to be replaced is my first priority. From there, I obviously need to remove the white paint(Church?) that is depressingly all over the horns and tweeter. Tips for removal? Just any stripper will do? Metal or plastic scraper? Then from there, how do I go about painting it? Spray paint? Brush? What type and color? What material are these?

Disagree. The RC-7 is every bit worth the added expense and then some. The RC-3 constantly had to have it's hand held to keep up in my system, and even then it seemed like it was forcing itself to perform up to the par with the RB-5's and the RF-3's. The RC-7 performs the job with ease, and absolutely no assistance.

Backside.....hehe,

Who remembers this cover.......

Coffee intake is occurring next up today is a refurb of my daughter's room; paint and flooring. What that child has done to her carpet is a crime. Going with some 12mm laminate which is fairly inexpensive and can be easily removed to re-carpet upon sale.

I picked up this little gem of a Marantz SR8002 yesterday for $250. Everything works. Much better than what I was using before. Having a blast testing it's limits. I know, I know, it's not McIntosh, or tubes, or more pricey stuff, but for me it's a definite upgrade.

They certainly rival the cost of speakers costing far more...

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morning coffee....but I don't think I have enough to make through the day...they don't make things like they use too !! you can't buy a 1lb bag of coffee...or a half gallon of ice cream....life sucks.... in less your in Japan !!! they bought all most all of are early vintage sound systems and tube amps... and sent their inferior chip amps.. now they want them back...

What I got today without the photos was 4 ft. of new steel brake line and 4 new shocks for my 1999 Silverado. A beauty she is with only 61K and constant offers to sell her. So all of a sudden yesterday brake pedal is to the floor, pull in the drive and a puddle is forming, brake fluid. Call my body shop buddy and general mechanical wizard and with no hesitation he says brake line has rusted away. Sure enough, right again. But being absolutely buried between frame rail and bed we opt to remove bed. Goes quickly with 1000ib. hoist I set him up with a few years ago. Splice in the new line and with easy access to rear shocks change them out. Back on lift for the two fronts began at 9a, finish at 1'ish. Not what I had planned when this began yesterday but a good ending for a rainy Saturday in KC Town. Only wish I had a new amp or something Fun but hey, a truck has gots to stop.

I can't answer to all the issues, but I will make suggestions on some. Regarding the paint removal OF THE DRIVERS: You'll have to use a paint stripper. Try the "safer" strippers first; those that are environmentally friendly, such as Citristrip Safer Paint and Varnish Stripping Gel. Brush some on the hidden side of the horn as a test and see how it reacts; sometimes multiple applications are necessary to remove multiple coats of paint. They sell plastic paint scrapers that would be perfect to scrape the softened paint off the drivers without scratching the horn. Try the paint stripper on an inconspicuous part of the cabinet such as the bottom, to see if it raises the grain of the wood. If not, apply the Citristrip, and after using the plastic scraper to remove the bulk of the white paint, use a pad of #1 steelwool, in the direction of the grain, to remove the paint. The full strength strippers that contain methyl chloride may be too strong for the plastic. If the Citristrip reacts with the backside horn plastic, then I would give up on removing the paint and just try to sand smooth the existing finish. Paint on the cabinets, as you've seen, looks like crap. Use spray paint. Spray paint will preserve the look of the grain better than a rolled on finish. Don't use a brush; as you can see the results... Of course, the litmus test on the drivers is to play music through them. As long as sound is coming out of the driver and there are no usual buzzes or sounds, you're good, as are the crossovers. You could put a voltmeter across the speaker terminals and measure the resistance of the driver. It should be within 1 or 2 ohms of what's stamped on the driver. Oh, and you better post photos of the finished speakers!

^^was made an offer when in San Antonio that was ~ok. Visited a couple of other B&M stores and I asked for 'best deal' and took them home with me. Store #1 called today and sweetened the deal and offered to deliver ~2 hours to me; I accepted. The other store offers were $1k more.

That's a beauty!!

SOLD !!! To cjmustang69. Proceeds to Klipsch Museum. Thanks Denny. Keith

Buy one get one free! The guys I know who have done recent LS restorations are @jimjimbo @Matthews and @MookieStl. I'm not sure if the finish is MDF or fiberglass and I am not sure if the fuses can be by-passed. For home use I wouldn't think fuses would be needed, and eliminating them might help with the clarity of the sound. What say the experts?

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That's nice... even the pair with the paint don't look that bad.

Tarheel for president...(may be too humble to run so may have to draft him)

The 250 will leave you wanting for more IMO. I'd at least try for the 440. Two 5" drivers never did it for me at the center point. You want that center speaker to be more beefy. There's someone near me selling a NIB 450 for $400 right now...

@Maximus89is doing a restoration project and may need a few parts. This will alert him to your post. +++ Edit: Almost forgot my manners. Welcome to the Klipsch Forums Mr. @Mck240. If you are doing all those upgrades to that many Klipsch speakers you may be a newcomer here but obviously not a rookie. Please feel free to start a thread and talk about the upgrades you did and how they sound. -Dave

OK so I made a quick mock up of a RP-250s, its not pretty but it gives me the (very) rough dimensions of what it would feel like in any particular space. And with that I have decided to do something rather unorthodox... So you see that bookshelf isn't merely a bookshelf... And I was thinking I could easily make a place to mount the speaker, while running the wire so the door could still open and close, this would allow me to have both speajers directly across from one another. Its easy enough to pull the couch forward a foot while watching a movie and then putting it back. PS I have stopped buying blu rays and just buy everything on iTunes now.... What do you think???

All depends on what you're after or willing to spend. When I rescued a pair of POS La Scalas, I just cut and mitered some 3/4" x3/4" aluminum angle. The project was done on a shoestring budget and turned out nice, but not as nice as the prefab trim on true Industrial Klipsch. I did not anodize mine since I did not care if it starts to oxidize over time. You would have to have it anodized after you cut the pieces or the cut edges and any spots you deburr, will look different. The correct trim does show up from time to time in the garage sale section or ebay. I am pretty sure Klipsch does not sell them, could be wrong. Parts express does have some corner treatments that also work well. I have both Industrial and Industrial wanna be's and I like both looks but the "real thing" has a cooler appearance (IMO), but will be costly. The fancy trim doesn't sound any better. .

"Now you hold the gun on me." The punchline to my favorite moonshine joke.

Sit in the main listening position and have someone walk along the side walls with a mirror. Where you see the speaker from your listening position is your first reflection points. You also have one behind you. For me the rear one was the biggest one. I made a two inch panel insulation panel and the difference was night and day. I also have about 8 to 12 inches between the couch and wall. It depends on how much the kids are feeling rambunctious. Just from the main menu of a few movies I put on the test things out, I was hearing things, I never heard again. I added one side panel, because the second side panel would be where my stair banisters are. They act as a difusor.

Make sure the jumpers on the back are hooked up tight. Also, make sure you don't have a speaker out of phase.

I believe the tapered array cuts off one of the woofers at a lower frequency but both play from the very bottom of the rated frequency response, one woofer plays 45-550 and the other 45-1800 or where ever the horn takes over can't remember right now. I had the 75's next to the RC-7's and they just sounded too "smoothed over" to my taste. Nice big sound and step up from the RB-81 II's I had but just not as crisp or detailed as the RC-7's. Yes, I think they are quite a bit better personally and really size wise not a lot bigger. The RC-7's also have tower speaker like bass in my little bedroom (13x14) that is very tight and detailed, significantly better bass than any of the Heresy speakers I have.

Probably the settings on the AVR.......go back into setting set to large and turn up the bass frequencies if you can. I used Auto set up also sounded like crap. Make sure the jumpers on the back of speakers are on and tight.

Thanks for the help, I've been using a Pioneer VST-515 to power them and they sound really good. But I know I can get them to awesome. But don't have a ton of money to spend I Found what I think is someone old home theater setup, I paid $30.00 for The two KLF-20s A pair of KG2.2 book shelves, an academy center, a KLF C 7, and a RSW- 15 but that looks like someone kicked both speakers on the RSW-15. they are all oak finish. I hooked them all up an they all work accept the RSW. The KLF-20 s sound amazing to me using my old pioneer in a 2 channel mode .I 've not set up the whole system together thought, because I don't know how. Thanks David

Those are the screws that hold the terminal strip in place that are tightened from the inside. They come out the front.

I hope you are saying elimination of contact points that might corrode and thereby degrade the signal and you are not saying fuses (or audiofool fuses) make a difference in sound. I think I know you better than that. I do agree with fuses are not needed in home applications with sane folks.

Internal wires connected to crossover are connected inside, these are the ends of those screws. The metal straps connect the external input wire to internal wiring. That's my Holiday Inn express vote; I wondered as well when I got my first Heresy.

Why are the electricians reluctant to add or change outlets to a higher amperage? Surely they should know the benefits. Is it an ego thing? Just curious.

I had to run a dedicated outlet with a 20 amp breaker for the sherbourn 7 channel amp that I had. I debated with my electrician for 3 days about it. Until I told him he was fired. That changed his mind real quick. Lol This was the first all mono 7 channel amp that was ever made and it had two cables that plugged into it. And I had him run another 20 amp to 3 other outlets for the preamp and other units. Stand your ground with these guys. 99.9% of them don't understand why and how's of why we want these things done He also did not like that I want d to use all orange hospital grade outlets But in the end I got what I wanted and what my system needed. Stand your ground. Your the customer and paying the bills Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My point is the RC-62 is worth looking at. The $75 RC-10 is not.

the Pro Fatial horn and driver Bob Crites uses in his two way Conrscala 'D" would be a good choice also to consider for two way use in a Belle/LaScala. you can also check out a project by one of our members (in case you/others have not seen it) though the thread is at diy audio dot com. http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/268959-zobsky-contemplates-variation-belle-klipsch.html

Yes. But it was a Rotus8. Four inches wider and ten inches longer than a Lotus/Caterham 7. At 1800 lbs., with Buick 3.5 liter V8, it was brutally quick and handled like a go-kart. Although I sometimes miss it, I'm glad I sold it when I did.

Whew! I start Monday. Firm job offer came first by phone then email today...

Looks like you have put together a sweet system. Mine has evolved quite a bit over the past 6 or so years. Here is my setup in it's current state.

You can get a lot of Klipsch for $2k. If you have anyone local to you that owns Klipsch Heritage you should give them a listen. There are a ton of speakers out there and something out there for everyone. You don't have to like what someone else likes. It just pays to listen with your own ears to see where you find yourself most content with the sound. I would also point out that Klipsch speakers punch way above their weight class. I have heard much more expensive speakers that sounded much worse than the Klipsch. The fact that you can find Heresies for $400 or so in pretty good shape and pair them with a sub or two and still be well under a grand is insane. Heresies will blow most other brands out of the water when going dollar for dollar. Do you have any limitations with your space? Heresies are small, not much larger than bookshelf speakers....but when you run them with a sub they are pretty hard to beat. They can sit on the floor with the angled risers they come with or you can put them on stands, end tables, etc to bring the tweeters and mids closer to ear level.

That's the attitude to take fellas, keep pestering the Bonehead with courtroom type questions. He will surely want to contribute here more often. What is the purpose of all this anyway?

i do ipa beers.....

" Unicorns are for real. " What? Unicorns in the Bible? Yes, they are mentioned nine times.

Quick update these tweeters are awesome .