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I primarily build Klipsch designs. Did Al design those? The $99 Super AA is a good value, but it is not the Super-X. The Super-X uses some different component values and provides 1dB increments of attenuation. I also build at a much higher quality level. He enjoys conflating the two because he knows it causes me some grief and confuses the customer. The idea of using a swamping resistor with an autotransformer was used by JBL thirty years before Al did it. The concept was originally proposed here for Klipsch loudspeakers by Dennis Kleitsch (DJK). It is easy for Al to deny this, since all of those old posts were lost when the forum software was upgraded. Dennis was always very irritated by this. The Super AA, Gentle Slope Networks, AP12-AK3, and the 3619-ET would not have come to fruition without me - those were my ideas. Al is brilliant (and yes, he generously shares knowledge), but he will not give credit where credit is due. Greg Roberts of Volti has the same problem.

Part time jiffy lube employee, i was the lead oil change sticker guy.

It's been in the mid 80s here for the last week or so. They're predicting low 30's in 4 days. Typical fall/winter here.

Elden @dtel enjoy the warm sunshine. We awakened to this in Southeast Michigan.

OK; have a glass of wine and test speakers "A." Open another bottle and test speakers "B." If "B" is better than "A," have another glass of wine. If "A" is better than "B," you are drinking cheap wine and should switch to something better. Problem solved Cheers, Emile

Man, this is where I always end up on the Audiophile spectrum.

If you mean the hair thing don't know, not long enough to know. Some lady tried to sell me on doing that, I pointed to my hair and asked really, she kept walking. I would like it but have never been to Hawaii. I love low key, one of the places we go to in Cozumel is because it's never crowded great food and drinks right on the water.

https://gainesville.craigslist.org/ele/d/klipsch-belle-loudspeakers/6742321029.html No affil...:

Your tone arm has the measles. JJK

Smoked three 20 pounders last night

Not an issue...have only one chair in my "cave". Asked the wife if she was offended that I didn't provide her a chair, she just sarcastically rolled her eyes, like, puleeeeeeze....as she wandered back to the living room to watch "Housewives" Very cool, I thought!

Maybe you tested a set with 3rd party replacement Diaphragms, which are crap compared to the original ones from Electro Voice? I owned many samples of all the drivers you speak of and the DH1a's with the ORIGINAL diaphragms measured and sounded very consistent from driver to driver. Either way, it doesn't matter, since the OP went in a different direction.

Likely the Faital is a 2" diaphragm with a 1.4 exit . May not have as good of highs which may require a little eq in the crossover to add some sparkle. One of the reasons I stayed with the H10Ak, though it all comes down to driver and horn match.

Start from scratch!!!!!!!

That was a $25 upcharge.

It's not so much a "new CF-4" as it is just a big 'ol D'Appolito design. I always liked the sound of that design when done correctly. Especially the CF-3's I had.

Don't forget the blinker fluid.

=== oil and air change every 3500 miles. Easy to remember —

Ok, I’m very worried about this thread... let’s play some vinyl, OK? Tomorrow is Friday. I’ll stay up past 10:00 pm EST if one of you will too... Cincy

Or... the source material was not demanding of the electronics, such that no audible differences were observed. Extreme example: Using AM radio with it's limited frequency response and inherent noise and distortion will sound equally bad with either the cheap receiver or the expensive monoblocks.

It's harder to test electronics rather than speakers, which are very easy to tell the difference.

Many people seem to listen with their eyes instead of their ears, especially members of the audio press. Blind tests remove this bias, often embarrassing the golden ears who find that the megabuck cables they thought they were listening to and gushing over were not hooked up at all.😥

=== something I’ve been pondering for some time — retirement has given me this special time —

After seeing a few posts of “I’ve had my Jubilees XX years,” I figured it’s time for me to finally provide an update. Since the very beginning, this gift has been very special to me. To me Jube’s are like a classic car that was owned by your father and handed down to you. The car becomes an heirloom that you cherish, something that you take your wife out for a drive, let your son take to prom and have hopes to pass on to him when he grows to become man. While, it has only been 2 years, this is the feeling that I get with my Jubilees. They have that heirloom feel that I know I can pass on hopefully to my son, when my ears betray me. I have finally found my go to drink and my go to hole in the wall bar. The bar that has that faint aroma of cigarette smoke, yet hasn’t been smoked in for over a decade. It’s handmade, with a long thick cherry rail molding wrap around begging to be sat at, leaned on, and danced on. The bartender Cory, is full of fun stories that draws customers in and ensures that your glass is never empty. The bar is filled with other Jubilee owners discussing what they are listening to, figuring out ways to get that last bit of detail, further dialing in the PEQ’s and filters. I sit off to the side now, as I’ve become a regular. I still enjoy listening in and learning, however, my contribution is now limited as there are far more knowledgeable experts in this bar. I now just sit back with my glass and enjoy the tunes. Though, should a new comer walk through that door, I will always keep an open seat and share my stories and knowledge, paying it forward. I may visit other bars with friends from time to time, but this bar is my home. I’ve realized that there is nothing further that needs to be said or added that hasn’t already been posted prior by experts that are far better audio linguists than myself. So I’ve chose to take a different approach in describing the setting that I feel Jube’s create. My Jubilees have become a staple in the family. We look forward to our movies more than ever before. They are fired up every evening as we prepare our dinner, adding warmth to the home. After I put down the kid for the evening, I will often come out and see my wife sitting on the couch with glass of scotch listening quietly to some FLAC rips of classical albums. Something she has never done with any of my systems prior and I could not be more proud. But Wait! Don’t ride off into the sunset just yet. It’s not 2:00 AM, the bar is still open for business, so keep that seat warm because the Jubilees are just the beginning. They are the foundation that I will build upon. The path is still foggy and the map a bit faded, but I have many guides that will help me reach my destination. The first stop, is ordering a 3rd round from the bartender. I’ve been slowly setting aside a rainy day fund that will allow me to drink just a bit more of the top shelf product. I’m not sure when I will wave over Cory for my order, but I’m going to need another drink. Once that refill is in my hand, I will wander around the bar, keeping my ears perked to see which way the wind is blowing. You see, that old car has a tired old engine (D75a) and is on borrowed time. I’m not sure if I should rebuild that engine or replace it with something more powerful, cleaner burning and fuel efficient. Hypex…ice… I came across some new old stock car mods and bought them from an Italian man that called himself La Scalla. Not sure how these additions to the car will look, but will be a project for a later date. So for now, I’m going to weave through the crowd and keep my ears open. So sorry folks, this car is not for sale, but you’re welcome to jump inside, I’m heading to the bar.

This makes no sense at all. If you prefer it, then it sounds better (to you), simple as that. A/B/X testing or double blind or whatever you want to call it, has lots of merit (to me).

Its true smoking is bad for you, I was almost paralyzed last week in Jamaica, well felt like it anyway.

We had a tomcat here from the time I was about five until I was a teen. One drove my mother bananas twisting around her feet when she baked turkey. She kicked him out of the house once when he almost tripped her in the kitchen. When we sat down and started to eat that turkey he walks up the back steps, bird in mouth. Looks at her, plops it down on that top slab the other side of the sliding glass door and tears into it while it was trying to get away. My brother and I laughed she made me get up and draw the curtains it grossed her out! the Spanish inquisition

I have one that is a hunter. He is very neat about his kills. He takes them to his bowl. Still trying to figure out how he caught two bats... at night. Frank, he's a smart bugger...

Seems to me that Valerie was predictably uncomfortable dealing with the memory of Paul's first wife, Belle. This is not to suggest that she influenced the decision to stop production of the Belle, but like many who marry widows or widowers, she was uncomfortable competing with a dead person. It would be appropriate for Klipsch and the museums to now pay appropriate tribute to the contributions of Belle Klipsch during the early years. Without her teaching salary, Klipsch & Associates might not have survived to morph into what now exists. Belle and Paul were not divorced -- which would have vcreated an entirely different dynamic. Belle died, leaving Paul a widower. He was fortunate that Valerie came into his life. While Valerie's reluctance to reference Belle during her lifetime is understandable, now that Valerie has joined Belle and Paul in the listening room eternal, Belle's contributions should no longer be ignored. Honoring Belle does not diminish the memory of Valerie. At least, that's my unsolicited opinion.

=== I recall one or two members were hoping to find a Parks Budgie with the CM 1254 SUT. There is one available on US audiomart for $500. No affiliation, not mine -

My speakers have the mumps

I think the pesticides and fertilizers they can, or cannot use, is what makes them "Organically Certified" or not.

Subjectively/Emotionally testing/enjoying my SX-850 and KG4s at my cabin on a Friday evening....

I believe so.

My room is smaller and I went from Chorus II to KHorns. Some people sit just as close for jubilees. Just do it and enjoy! Bigger is always better! You just adjust your listening levels Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Open up Control Panel, View performance, and on the bottom it shows if Windows is activated. JJK

Agree. The other thing I’ve always liked about the epic series is not just the MTM design, but high-quality compression drivers being able to handle a wide range of frequencies from mid to high.

Mupimity mump mump.

The lower you can get the crossover, the better the integration in a true D'Appolito configuration as it has specifics of crossover frequency (size of the wavelength) and the position of the drivers to allow for timing consideration of the wave from each driver.

I agree completely. But we are in the minority here. Don't ever describe your listening experience on an emotional level, or use words like "liquid midrange" or "musical" or "PRAT". And be careful preferring one amplifier over another because of how "it sounds" (yeah I know, wrong thread). There are some things that must never be mentioned.........

All true, but by today’s standards, it’s a poor excuse for a tweeter.

At a bar this would be a fun conversation 😉

Those two sentences don't seem to go together. I agree with the first one. But if something sounds better to me, it doesn't matter how I came to that conclusion. A/B/X, DBT, etc. isn't necessary. Unless you're trying to sell it to someone else. Maybe that's the difference with me; I'm not trying to sell anything to anybody. I just want to enjoy my music.

The system sounded so good with factory components I was hesitant to change anything. But I trust that the experiences I’ve read on here of members that have changed the HF compression driver for a higher quality unit to be true. I had my heart set on TAD 4002, but they are unobtainium. And when you do find them, they are grossly expensive even used. I weighed my options and did as much research on the topic I could bare. The next best candidate for the money seemed like Faitalpro 20at. They are discontinued though. While you can get them, they are very rare. Even though people have gave testimony how great they are I figured I would try Radian 950pb’s. I liked the idea that I could upgrade the diaphragms in the future to beryllium when money allows. There is so little info on how drivers perform. And so many variants in room and system that you really have to take everything with a grain of salt. I was told by a dealer the Radian was slightly better in his opinion and his staffs opinion than the 20at. Being that they were similar priced I closed my eyes and hoped for the best. I know I would be happy with either and that I will never know what the other sounds like. But this time next year it won’t matter which driver was better after I get the new diaphragms

He means the notches on the plates. Some 5ar4 Mullards have 4 and some have 7. Some Mullard 5ar4 plates might be smooth but I'm not sure.

Yes, to chris A and Zen Traveler, I agree that tube amplifiers that are NOT engineered to be linear will sound different from amps that are. But some Tube amp are quite linear. For example, McIntosh tube amplifiers are so linear that distinguishing them from SS amps would be near impossible. People who are new to this hobby should know that when tube amps sound different than S/S, it's not because they "do a better job of revealing the true warmth of the music" (as suggested by tube fans), but rather it's simply distortion. ..Distortion that did not exist in the original source but rather was added by a non-linear amplifier.

I find that anytime the word "synergy" arises in audiophile posts, it means "I don't understand what is happening, but I like the resulting sound with the music I'm currently playing". Before you rush to jump on that bandwagon, consider this: when you ask someone that is testing system components what synergy means, the usual reply from all engineers that I've asked is "well, it generally means that some non-ideal performance in one part of the system improperly interacts with and partially offsets non-ideal performance in another part". In other words, it implies that there was something undesirable in at least two places, but when put together and allowed to (improperly) interact, by the roll of the dice they seem to hide undesired characteristics in both parts of the system--at least during the time when certain types of audio program material are playing on the system. On the surface of the situation, at this point I think it's clear that improper interactions are not desirable. When you begin to drill down to understanding what is actually happening, usually what occurs is that the knowledge gained about the audio system under test are used to eliminate characteristics that lend themselves to "synergy" so that the performance is robust with whatever components are hooked together (i.e., module independence from other modules is a fundamental design precept in linear system theory). Such is the case with zero feedback single-ended tube amplifiers, which interact improperly with listening rooms that are too small and very efficient horn-loaded loudspeakers that also act as microphones to returning echos, which then return echo delays in the form of electrical reaction signals to the output tubes as delayed feedback (a bad thing)...inside the triodes themselves. This is audible on decays within the music/audio program material. If you want to add tight reverb to add "apparent room depth", I recommend adding a good reverb unit instead to avoid reducing the stability margin of your amplifiers. And besides being more stable, at least then you can turn it off when its characteristics become undesirable. Chris

Thanks for this clarification ClaudeJ1. I think I'll stop using those names just out of respect for the designer.

Just to set the record as straight as I know how. What makes a speaker a "JUBE" is the bass bin and NOT the K-402. This, in accordance with first hand listening to Roy Delgado, Klipsch Chief Engineer who designed both the Jubilee Bass bin AND the K-402. So a JubeScala and a JubeKhorn, are both seemingly popular misnomers that have been propagated to near myth levels on this forum.