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    • As I wrote the potential (voltage)between the ground and neutral must be zero or a current will flow somewhere in the system. For there to be a voltage difference between the two, equipment connected to the conductors also are connected in some way to another ground, and the two grounds are not connected directly together (there is a resistance between the two ground points). This sets up the ground loop. I'll say that we are saying the same thing.     If wired correctly, if there is a fault on the load side of an iso transformer, it clears back to iso transformer through the ground wire.  The iso is the new separately derived power source and is not the house or utility power source. It is now its own system with its own ground. All grounds need to connect back to the power source - the iso. Connecting the secondary side ground to the primary side ground not only defeats the purpose of the iso transformer, but you are potentially setting up a dangerous condition.   Think of the iso transformer as the utility and everything connected on the load side would be analogous to your house electrical system. And as such you need load side circuit breakers to protect wire and equipment against overloads and short circuits. If you are concerned about personnel safety or arcing fires you can also install GFIC's and AFCI's on the load side. But I would be judicious about using these as you could be susceptible to nuisance trips, a real PITA.
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    • I will part with my 75 LS before my LSI!! 
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    • Maybe we are saying the same thing..but ground loops are because of different potentials at different ground points which cause current to flow in the ground. Theoretically there should be no current in the safety ground. Neutral is the return for the load current. Sorry I assume PCs with Iso Trans are not "relatively inexpensive". But admittedly I really don't know. I have never looked into it. I fix my noise problems at their source using science. Curious though when you have a "fault" on the load side of an iso trans where does the current go. Does it trip the breaker on the primary side? Or does the isolated side have GFI protection?
    • At the risk of being nit-picky, maybe. To be nauseatingly accurate, if the PC uses an isolation transformer the input ground (house/utility) must be totally isolated from the output ground (iso transformer). Grounding needs to be at the source of the power, and in the case of an iso transformer, is the iso transformer secondary side (this is a separately derived power source per NFPA 70 (the National Electric Code). The primary side grounds back to the house/utility and the two must be separate for effective noise isolation, and I believe safety.   This is also true of double conversion UPS's   Not interested in an argument or long technical discussion, but this is the correct situation.   Other than noise from digital sources (high frequency pulses switching between 1's and 0's), other noise comes from a voltage difference between the ground and neutral (the infamous ground loop). This voltage must always be zero or noise could result. Just about any source of noise that can occur in audio systems that I can think of is a result of a voltage difference between the two.
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    • On relatively inexpensive power conditioners it is probably illegal for them to isolate the safety ground connection. And it SHOULD NOT be done. If you have a noise problem figure out where and between which pieces of equipment and fix that interconnect/interface. https://indianaaes.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/indy-aes-2012-seminar-w-notes-v1-0.pdf review the document at this link..you will then know as much as the greatest minds on noise know.
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